Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 973420)

Im not.



so you agree, it's not behind the turbine.



Is today opposite day for you?



It would be physically impossibrule for the wastegate to be between the turbine and muffler, but able to "bleed off" gasses around the turbine.

It's not semantics, it's not a technicallity; it's simple NOT behind the turbine. It's infront of it. Route the damn tube all the way to the tailpipe, it's still in front of the turbine.

Originally Posted by iantboyd (Post 973425)

the whole hot side assembly is considered the turbine. True, the ewg is not behind the turbine wheel. That was not the intent of my post. Regardless of how you want to refer to it, it is physically comes after the hot-side but before the muffler. Which is something the op had asked about or i believed him to be asking about.

Originally Posted by kodirat (Post 973427)

I feel the external wastegate is unnecessary for this size turbo and my goals

Originally Posted by viperormiata (Post 973424)

I see you bought the new 209 dollar ebay special. The manifold is fine, be prepared to have work done on the downpipe.

The flanges they have on the downpipe are perfectly fine. That manifold/combo is designed for a turbo using the tradition "Ford 5 Bolt" style turbine outlet and will bleed off enough gas through the hole to work well with an external waste gate. People have been doing it that way for years and years.

Don't make the mistake of thinking that is "after the turbo" because it's definitely not. That will bleed gases pre-turbine, not post turbine. That setup uses the same style waste gate hole for the turbine housing that most internal waste gate systems use, this just happens to have flanges for an external waste gate that will operate it vs. the traditional can and arm.

Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 973429)

the size of the turbo or goals has nothing to do with the use of a EWG over an IWG.

Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 973435)

it would surely be easier...

Originally Posted by triple88a (Post 973655)

So let me get this right, you're eliminating the door flapper on the iwg setup so you can use the same hole for an ewg setup essentially removing the benefit of an external wastegate and keeping the negatives of the internal wastegate?