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D-ray 12-18-2019 09:49 AM

Exhaust side of head stripped
 
Hello,

I have a 1.6l miata engine that's getting prepared for turbo and bought some better Exhaust studs. So I was cleaning the threads on the Exhaust side of the head with a thread chaser and on the very last stud hole my thread chaser somehow fouled up and got stuck, I had to back it out with force and with it the threads were gone. :facepalm:

I've found this post: https://www.miataturbo.net/engine-pe...threads-81900/
and it's a fixable mistake...

My question: I noticed on 1.6l heads there are two unused exhaust stud holes (pic 1)
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...12700bcbb4.jpg

I messed up the threads on the upper left part of the head (pic 2)
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...4d2f9e7909.jpg


Is it possible to set up the stud configuration like such (pic 3)
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...873bfcbe4c.jpg

to provide adequate clamping of the manifold to the head?

Or do I need to repair that hole and go with how the studs were originally setup?

My reasoning is , to me the configuration in (pic 3) seems symmetrical and can provide a proper seal if I tighten the nuts evenly around. I also saw this miata head (pic 4) with a similar configuration .
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...c30ede408b.jpg



Thank you for your help,

Drew

sixshooter 12-18-2019 10:20 AM

Just do a thread sert or a helicoil

D-ray 12-18-2019 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 1557526)
Just do a thread sert or a helicoil

Is there any downside on using the stud configuration in pic 3? Do you happen to know why mazda left two unused stud holes?

acedeuce802 12-18-2019 11:26 AM

Does your header have provisions for that stud? I wouldn't see any reason that it wouldn't be adequate, but are there headers and gaskets that have holes for that unused hole?

D-ray 12-18-2019 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by acedeuce802 (Post 1557539)
Does your header have provisions for that stud? I wouldn't see any reason that it wouldn't be adequate, but are there headers and gaskets that have holes for that unused hole?

It does.

Here are two gaskets I have, one mls and other is composite.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...74cb921913.jpg

Here is my turbo manifold.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...646d012289.jpg

Also here is an 1.6 OEM manifold gasket set
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...77b688f10a.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...bd06678d57.jpg




Thoughts?

ryansmoneypit 12-18-2019 12:23 PM

probably just fine

tomrev 12-18-2019 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by ryansmoneypit (Post 1557550)
probably just fine

Plus 2 for above; and by the way, that is a beautiful header!

D-ray 12-18-2019 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by ryansmoneypit (Post 1557550)
probably just fine

Thanks man, I will just have to test and see.


Originally Posted by tomrev (Post 1557553)
Plus 2 for above; and by the way, that is a beautiful header!

Surprisingly, it's cxracing turbo kit version 2. I know they don't have a good reputation with their old manifold , but I wanted to give it a test anyhow , and I based this off of several people getting this kit. :x:


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...2d02bbf936.jpg

vitamin j 12-19-2019 05:08 PM

trubo not hit block. nice!

cpierr03 12-20-2019 09:19 AM

Just use heilcoil. Stripped threads in alumnium heads is pretty common, heil coils are steel and would provide a stronger thread anyhow. Some people preemptively heil coil their stud holes for this reason.

Turbomack 12-20-2019 09:27 AM

I much prefer the MLS gaskets over the composite ones. I only get a single use out of the composite ones as they really deform on me after the first torque.

vitamin j 12-20-2019 04:55 PM

EZ Loks are so easy I'm happy I did this:
https://www.miataturbo.net/build-thr...4/#post1540476

Turbomack 12-20-2019 08:00 PM

Will the helicoil work on the turbo flange as well? Threads are boogered up on one of mine. Have used it successfully on a caliper but kind of thought the high temp would make it fail.

ryansmoneypit 12-21-2019 06:52 AM

I always use a keencert if room allows. King cert? I never remember the name.


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