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drgoodwrench 08-24-2008 09:13 AM

Fuel Pump Voltage increase methods
 
Anyone out there tried increasing the voltage to the stock pump to increase PSI delivered?:vash:

olderguy 08-24-2008 09:22 AM

Better off just dropping in a 190lph HP for $80

drgoodwrench 08-24-2008 09:59 AM

Thanks. Where can you get that price?

olderguy 08-24-2008 10:04 AM

https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/sho...ight=190lph+HP

drgoodwrench 08-24-2008 10:04 AM

Thanks again!

drgoodwrench 08-24-2008 10:06 AM

Just to be clear, what is the standard pressure this HP pump delivers, 5 Bar? vs the 3 bar of the stock pump?

Joe Perez 08-24-2008 10:18 AM

The pump is not set to deliver any specific pressure, that is set by the fuel pressure regulator.

Basically, the capacity of a pump is measured in terms of volumes vs. pressure. A larger pump can deliver either a larger volume of fuel at the same pressure, or the same volume of fuel at a higher pressure (or both, along a finite continuum.) So as the FPR calls for more pressure, the pump is able to keep up with demand.

For example, here is the plot from a Walbro 155:
http://www.rev2red.com/images/cars/faq/155lph.jpg

And here's the plot from a 190HP:
http://www.rev2red.com/images/cars/faq/hp190lph.jpg

(Source and credit: https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/showthread.php?t=4288)

drgoodwrench 08-24-2008 10:24 AM

So looks like I'll still need to mess with the stock regulator to consistantly hold a higher pressure under boost. I have full ECU control, and trying to make a "cheap" but reliable road racing set up. Weighing the cost of larger injectors vs fuel pressure increase methods with the stock 230cc injectors. Boost is limited to 6 psi, 7200RPM rev limit.

olderguy 08-24-2008 10:29 AM

If your stock pump is in good shape and those are your goals, just add a cheap Vortec AFPR and cause your stock pump to rise to 78~80 psi and handle your needs. You can pick them up for around $50 used.

drgoodwrench 08-24-2008 10:32 AM

Any known reliability problems with those Vortec units?

olderguy 08-24-2008 11:13 AM

I've used them for years on several applications and have had good luck with them.

turbobluemiata 08-24-2008 10:28 PM

I have a vortech for sale 40 shipped sorry for the threadjack

The_Pipefather 08-25-2008 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by drgoodwrench (Post 300281)
So looks like I'll still need to mess with the stock regulator to consistantly hold a higher pressure under boost. I have full ECU control, and trying to make a "cheap" but reliable road racing set up. Weighing the cost of larger injectors vs fuel pressure increase methods with the stock 230cc injectors. Boost is limited to 6 psi, 7200RPM rev limit.


AFPR setup might not be so reliable if WOT is maintained for long periods of time. Specially since you're adding an additional mechanical component in the loop, plus the injectors, fittings, lines, and clamps are under higher continuous pressure than they were designed for. Better option is to get larger injectors since you already have an ECU. Is this a MAF or a speed-density based ECU?

Stealth97 08-25-2008 07:29 PM

I use a 110v inverter, got it for $25 at walmart, works great

patsmx5 08-25-2008 07:47 PM


Originally Posted by Stealth97 (Post 300866)
I use a 110v inverter, got it for $25 at walmart, works great

No wonder you're throwing down 20g's!!!

drgoodwrench 09-03-2008 10:33 AM

ECU runs off a MAP
 
Using a 2 bar sensor.

drgoodwrench 09-03-2008 10:39 AM

here are some photos
 
5 Attachment(s)
Here are a few pics of the build.

Braineack 09-03-2008 10:43 AM

I find myself salivating, yet I'm not looking at a reese's peanut butter cup.

JasonC SBB 09-03-2008 10:47 AM

Run a fused gauge 10 wire from the alternator to a relay on the fuel pump. May get you enough if it's marginal.

blue turbo mx5 09-03-2008 10:54 AM

engine bay looks great man


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