Full Race Inconel Studs
Has anyone tried the fullrace.com Inconel stud kits, either the 8mm or 10mm ones? At $50 it looks like a good deal for inconel studs.
http://www.full-race.com/store/turbo...dware-kit.html http://www.full-race.com/store/turbo...dware-kit.html I am looking to use a set of 8mm on my MSM turbo install. I have all kinds of good stuff about fullrace products in general, but not too many details on these inconel studs. |
A286 is not Inconel, the threads are cut and not rolled like TSEs, and there is no locking hardware. Do it once, do it right, do it white with TSE.
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im all for doing it white
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That is what I was wondering as well. A286 is not an alloy I am familiar with. My only option is the FM 8mm kit then, the MSM flanges do not have enough room to drill out to 10mm.
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Originally Posted by relte
(Post 796704)
That is what I was wondering as well. A286 is not an alloy I am familiar with. My only option is the FM 8mm kit then, the MSM flanges do not have enough room to drill out to 10mm.
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Was it the guy with the gray MSM?
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Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 796700)
Do it once, do it right, do it white with TSE.
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Trackspeed Engineering: http://trackspeedengineering.com/sto...2ac7d22e527d4b
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A286 is just another iron-nickel superalloy so it's properties should be similar to inconel. In fact I think that some of the original discussions about different stud materials on here focused on A286
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Originally Posted by relte
(Post 797667)
Was it the guy with the gray MSM?
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Originally Posted by v01canic
(Post 797688)
who the hell is TSE and do they have m10x1.5?
M10x1.5 kits in stock, with Stage 8 lockers (the only thing that works) and Resbond (absolutely required). http://trackspeedengineering.com/sto...-kit-p-98.html |
DO it with TSE - you WON'T regret it! Had my first nut-wrenching-free track day after installing TSE's kit - freakin awesome not having to fuck with low boost, broken studs, and hot cracked manifolds (props to ARTech there on the manifold)
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TSE is a pretty cool company. They let Jerry Sandusky crash at the house when he's in-town.
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A286 is not a "superalloy" afaik, it's a specific type of stainless steel used for high temp applications.
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Originally Posted by JasonC SBB
(Post 797803)
A286 is not a "superalloy" afaik, it's a specific type of stainless steel used for high temp applications.
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It's used for aerospace fasteners, I know that much. If I still worked at my old job, I'd even be able to tell you about the properties...if it weren't confidential. They're tested in house so it was proprietary.
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Inconel is a trade name like Klenex or Teflon. A286 is not Inconel and based on a quick look at the spec sheet, Inconel 718 (I think that's what FM/TSE use?) looks like a superior material for exhaust manifold studs.
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Originally Posted by njn63
(Post 797884)
Inconel is a trade name like Klenex or Teflon. A286 is not Inconel and based on a quick look at the spec sheet, Inconel 718 (I think that's what FM/TSE use?) looks like a superior material for exhaust manifold studs.
At the end of the day the TSE studs are the only ones that have been tested on the track and who testing them has been stated. I am also sure Savington could get you lap times to if you asked nicely. Begi or FM has not released that info at all. |
Originally Posted by shuiend
(Post 797892)
Just FYI TSE has not released which exact Inconel alloy they use for their studs. This is mostly so other companies do not just make copies. I do not think FM or Begi has released which alloy they use either.
If I were them I'd keep that information proprietary also. Too many copiers that don't know how to research materials out there (see Full-Race ;)) |
Our alloy is indeed proprietary. It worked - BEGi and FM use a different alloy. ;)
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Originally Posted by Savington
(Post 797978)
Our alloy is indeed proprietary. It worked - BEGi and FM use a different alloy. ;)
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Sorry for raising this ancient thread from the grave, but I have a relevant query.
Since I'm yanking the engine right now, I figure this would be as good a time as any to redo all of the problematic fasteners on the turbo. What I really need are some studs to replace the 5/16ths inch bolts that hold on my wastegate to the turbo (it's an internal housing). No amount of anti-seize seems to protect them from seizing as the level of heat around this area is pretty damn high. I've even had to drill one out and helicoil it at one point. Converting them to studs would isolate the actual fastening area from the heat (since it would be outside of the turbine housing with a nut instead of screwed into it). It would also make assembly a bit easier. Yes, I tried google, but it's all aerospace/military contractors who want you to submit an RFQ, presumably as part of a multi-trillion dollar contract for bulk manufacturing of space fighters or whatever. |
What are you asking? All you did was say a bunch of stuff.
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I'm looking for a place to buy some studs for the 5 bolt turbine housing I have.
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search for the nissan ones a bunch of use use. should be able to get part numbers fast
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I have been running the BEGI M10 inconel studs on track, cast mani, 225-252 whp, 40 min stints, @ or slightly faster than spec miata times (swedish equivalent) for 2 seasons without ever tightening the nuts. Regular steel nuts.
My downpipe studs stretch however. |
begi has m10 inco? news to me
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Originally Posted by 18psi
(Post 1264210)
begi has m10 inco? news to me
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Originally Posted by 18psi
(Post 1264210)
begi has m10 inco? news to me
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I would never recomment them anyway, was just curious.
I like my vendors to be non-liars. Thanks for the info Larzie. (and yes I'd order from Andrew if I was getting some) |
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