How to Make a Loud BOV Quiet.
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Wrap that bitch in foam.
Attachment 208862 Attachment 208863 Attachment 208864 It's a lot quieter now. Just easing around town without boosting, I don't hear it. Before you'd hear it no matter what. If I get on it some and make a few PSI, I sometimes here it, but barely. Probably not audible from outside the car. Full boost, you hear it, but it's not much louder than at a few PSI. I'm gonna try wrapping a little piece of metal around the foam where the BOV vents tomorrow. This may make it quieter and will help keep from blowing all the foam out. Currently have 3 zip ties holding the foam. The intake is now 10x louder than the BOV. Working on a solution there too. |
I have to assume you like your cars quiet. I don't think you would enjoy my car! :giggle:
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why didn't you just recirc. it?
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Originally Posted by Rafa
(Post 358403)
I have to assume you like your cars quiet. I don't think you would enjoy my car! :giggle:
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LOL pat and his never ending quest for all things quiet:giggle:
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Hahaha Someone wants a sleeper...
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How to Make a Loud BOV Quiet.
Wrap that bitch in foam. NOT...you probably reduced the flow by a good amount. BOVs or BPVs need to be fast-acting in order to shift huge quantities of air before the charge line between the compressor and throttle body shoots up in pressure, thus causing a reversal of flow and the resultant turkey gobble. Use a bypass valve if you want a quiet BOV. If its good enough for Formula 1 and every single OEM or factory racecar ever made, its good enough for you. subaru has the best OEM bypass valve and you can have one for $20 if you look. |
with his intake consisting of a 6" (just a guess) pipe I seriously doubt recirculating the air back there will make it any quieter...that is unless he'd extend the intake and install the stock airbox or something.
is that a heat shield you are working on in the first picture Pat? |
Anything is quieter than a blowoff valve. I have a 6" pipe too and I can barely hear my bypass valve.
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Originally Posted by the_pipefather
(Post 358414)
anything is quieter than a blowoff valve. I have a 6" pipe too and i can barely hear my bypass valve.
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Basically I couldn't recirculate it. At least, not easily. The intake is basically a filter on the turbo, with no room for anything else.
Yes I'm going for the sleeper look, and sound matters too. :fawk: Whether it hurt flow or not... I really don't care. This turbo surges/flutters (whatever it's called) when I shift below 3500. That is, until the BOV finally stops dragging it's ass and opens. Still does the same thing as before with the foam, only now I hear "flutter-flutter-silence...". I should probably get a softer spring for the BOV so it will open sooner. I'm gonna wrap the air filter in foam too after I build enough heat shields to feel safe doing it. Don't care if that hurts performance either. I want a quiet, reliable, fast car. In that order. :giggle: |
Originally Posted by 18psi
(Post 358413)
is that a heat shield you are working on in the first picture Pat?
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Originally Posted by patsmx5
(Post 358418)
Basically I couldn't recirculate it. At least, not easily. The intake is basically a filter on the turbo, with no room for anything else.
Originally Posted by patsmx5
(Post 358418)
This turbo surges/flutters (whatever it's called) when I shift below 3500.
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Originally Posted by mazda/nissan
(Post 358460)
I now understand
if "some" users had let lazzer finish his electronic BOV this could have be remedied :) |
Side note- I keep looking on google for info on how to make an intake quiet, and all I'm getting is "how do I make my intake louder"....
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Originally Posted by patsmx5
(Post 358467)
Side note- I keep looking on google for info on how to make an intake quiet, and all I'm getting is "how do I make my intake louder"....
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There are electric BOV's out there.. I've heard interesting good things about them.
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Originally Posted by mazda/nissan
(Post 358469)
I think while browsing through FM's 700 some-odd (probably more now) pictures they have in their album, I saw a few of a car with what looked to be a large chunk of foam that was carved hollow with holes cut into it for air flow placed over the filter, and that it did a great deal in quieting the intake.....At least I think it was in FM's photos...
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Originally Posted by patsmx5
(Post 358467)
Side note- I keep looking on google for info on how to make an intake quiet, and all I'm getting is "how do I make my intake louder"....
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Hang in there Pat. I like my intake and BOV quiet too. I might even go to a *gasp* recirculating setup.
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Originally Posted by ThePass
(Post 358470)
There are electric BOV's out there.. I've heard interesting good things about them.
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increase the diameter of the flow cross section = lower mach numbers = quieter
http://gallery.y8s.com/d/423-3/bigbov.jpg |
is that you? :bowrofl:
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Originally Posted by y8s
(Post 358557)
increase the diameter of the flow cross section = lower mach numbers = quieter
Attachment 9890 Notice that this doesnt replace the actual throttle body which is still in the original location, but it closes in conjunction with it, thus removing any possibility of flutter. An e-BOV might be easier and simpler though. |
Yeah, I bet I could port on this BOV a bit and make it quieter. Pretty sure it's designed to be loud.
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GFB Electronic BOV
Super expensive though. :td: They also have the Stealth which is basically the same, but without the electronics. I've read alot of great reviews about GFB online. Vash- |
mine is a GFB I love it.. it is super loud though
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hey pat, here's something for ya:
The All-Electronic Blow-Off Valve! I also found a local supplier ;-) for the e-BOV @ $18.47 each: Toro 1 In. In-Line Jar Top Valve with Flow Control (Slip) - 53707 at The Home Depot The controller doesnt have to be so complex, just something that goes to ground at closed throttle since you don't run a MAF. Or even a vacuum switch if you want to get fancy. |
Probably also depends on the kind of foam you're using. The samekind principles for making a firearm silencer probably apply. Another material worth considering is steel wool.
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Well, I'm gonna do the intake next before I finish up the BOV. But I was figuring I'd wrap the BOV in another layer of foam, then wrap it in sheet metal and put a couple hose clamps. Might be too restrictive, but if so, I can make the steel band smaller. So we'll see. I'm not wanting to change BOV's right now. I can't while I'm at college.
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I've read that even a long hose helps muffle the sound- and you can aim the exit. I haven't tried it yet... my eBay bov isn't that loud.
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Originally Posted by The_Pipefather
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yes, OR use a pre-compressor throttle body mounted like that:
Attachment 9890 Notice that this doesnt replace the actual throttle body which is still in the original location, but it closes in conjunction with it, thus removing any possibility of flutter. An e-BOV might be easier and simpler though. bmw m12 engine? |
I believe its a BMW, yes.
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I bet a tube sock would work great, just double it up.
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I had a lawnmower foam air filter on mine. That cut noise down by half... There's k&n style breather filters on eBay that will fit most bovs.
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Did you use foam with a combustability rating? Wat if you backfire :( Some foam likes to burn.
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Originally Posted by faeflora
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Did you use foam with a combustability rating? Wat if you backfire :( Some foam likes to burn.
I put a small piece on my manifold and it smoldered to nothing. |
APS makes a good Recirc.
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Pat, I agree with you about the noise levels. After I installed a midpipe and header, my car was much louder than I wanted. Before, I could step on it and not get too much attention, but now I get unwanted attention. The added noise isn't worth the 4-6 WHP that is gained.
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Originally Posted by patsmx5
(Post 361295)
Good point. Never heard of that. Link? This is walmart special foam. I'm sure there's something better out there, but I wouldn't know what.
I put a small piece on my manifold and it smoldered to nothing. Here's a link to some foam: Flame Retardant Foam |
Why not just change the frequency? Stick a really big dog whistle on it.
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my bov is rerouted and still loud as fuck.
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