How many china chargers have gone bad?
 

I've been reading up on people's success stories for the china chargers. I haven't seen many negative remarks. Any failures that weren't caused by overboosting or user error? I'm looking at this one since its the same as dvcn, it has decent spool time, and his has lasted a few yrs. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...K%3AMEWAX%3AIT

If this has been asked b4 then oops. I searched and read.

mine has been working well for over 800 miles of boosting. I also havent seen any bad reports of them.

I'm actually curious about this as well. How many have been reported to be defective so far? I know there's no way to tell exactly, but a rough estimate would be great

https://www.miataturbo.net/showthrea...hlight=garrett

Lots to read but if you can get through it, and if it's all true, it more or less states that the Garrett turbos are the same as the china turbos on eBay. I'm not sure if that's 100% true but it did convince me enough to not be terribly concerned if I were to buy one.

My first turbo was an eBay chinacharger t25/t28 hybrid, ball bearing unit. I only ran 7 psi on it with a voo-doo box at the time, but the bearings blew out after seriously under 700 miles. I do have a Garrett Chinese knockoff that is on the BEGI website as a GT2854? I have no plans on using this on my car as I have a genuine Garrett on right now, but it's a journal bearing and it can be rebuilt with the exact same kit as the Garrett. In other words, I'd trust the journal bearing one, but I know there are a lot of china BB units that people use and have a lot of luck with. I just didn't have luck with one.

15k miles on a Ebay16g, no oil leaks, looks brand new. Boosting 18 pounds. No shaft play.

Roughly 2.5 weeks now on my ebay t3 (cxracing which i assume is chinacharged) and no problems, no smoking, no leaks, spools good (for what its on lol). Only running on 5lbs right now due to not having any type of boost control other then 5psi wastegate spring.

I know a lot of people running cxracing t3 and t28. All say they are impressed. Not one complaint

cxracing is china correct?

I have had a china charger on for a couple weeks now. Only negative is quickly wearing rear tires.

Damn. I was thinking about getting one, but if that's gonna happen.... I guess no Chinacharger for me. :(

You did catch the part about the tire wear? Thats a good thing!!

omg ^^^^^^^^^^ i'm pretty sure he's being sarcastic.

i have 2 cars with them, my friends eg hatch has one, and 3 other friends have one on cars ranging from dsm's to crx's. the newest one is 2 yrs. old, the the rest are 3-5 yrs. old. 15k-65k miles on them. all work great. i was the first one to try one among my friends, i figured if it lasted 6mos. i'd be happy since my turbonetics turbo had gone out and i didn't have $800 to replace it.
well, it'll be 6 years old in aug. this year. all the turbo's still work great.

Mine's still running strong.

About 6 months on mine, bought from ilovetacotaco, holding strong.

The only negative side is 3 bent stock rods on the BP block.

- no shaft play

- no oil leaks (mine has the oil feed line restrictor)

Always used regular 5-30W oil.

I realized that now that I say this aloud, the next time I drive my car the turbo will fail...so I need to make sure my garrett is in my trunk.

have been runing a cx racing for a few months on the 240 and it is holding up pretty good. just going to run a sr t25 on the miata though.

We have 70 of these things floating around in the last 16 months. We ran one in house for 11 months with no problems. It was in decent enough shape that we took it off and sold it. Of the units we have sold, two have suspected problems. One, in the UK, which the owner has refused to send back for testing. We will probably never know about that one. The second just got shipped out for testing. I should know more in a few days. I am told if it is a defective turbo from the factory, they will just replace it with a brand new one. Possible/potential 2.9% fail rate if I count the one in the UK. If I do not count it, 1.5% potential fail rate. I'd play those odds. :)
Stephanie

Those are really low rates, and even IF it fails, you can have another for < $200. YOU STILL WIN.

one of these days im going to put my garret turbine/shaft and compressor wheel in the ebay CHRA...

That is the whole idea! If it fails, it is cheap to replace.
Stephanie

Do you guys offer a china version of a 30r?

I can get:
1. 3076 with T25 flanges, and externally gated. 0.86 a/r.
2. 3076 with T25 flanges, and internally gated. 0.86 a/r.

We have used the 2871 equivilent also. But no 3071 turbo.
Stephanie

What was the spool like on the 2871? Have you used the china 3076? If so, what was the spool like?

ive seen it suggested that the china t3/t04e .50 trim is similar to a 30r, experts correct me if im wrong

i would love to hear a review on this big as t28 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/GT287...Q5fAccessories

That seems like kind of a shitty combo. Tiny T2 inlet on a .64ar turbine housing combined with (what appears to be) a t04e compressor wheel.... So it would....spool poorly because of the large compressor and....have a shitty top end because of the tiny turbine housing.

Skip it.

(question directed to jeff)
Sorry to thread jack, but I am curious, that turbo you have which I also own is it comparable to a 30r?

Can you pm me or post up some pricing info? I can't find any on your site.

Also very interested.

The t28 your wondering about is great!!! I have ran one for about 500 miles now and its good, but my buddy has had one for a while now. The only problem he has had is that a bolt sheard off into the exaust housing. But the turbo works great!!!

that's interesting to hear becaue the specs are very close to the garrett 2876r here are the maps for that http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...R_705330_1.htm

.64ar :ne: .86 ar

.64ar on a t25 is roughly equivalent to a .48ar on a t3...except, you know, smaller. I have no doubt that the garrett model with a .86ar would be a good match, but tiny turbine + tiny ar + BIG compressor = a bad combo.

Edit: To clarify, the turbo in the ebay listing comes with a .64ar housing, while the standard garrett 2876r comes with a .86ar housing.

I'm trying to keep my post count low until I get my car Turbo'd but hell... this is some funny shit. Anyone who changes turbo's on the side of the road is seriously bad ass..... hahaha awesome.

Can someone nearby please give braineack some assistance? That cat is gonna turn on him and eat his lunch.

Corky
go kitty, go

Wouldn't be very hard once it cooled off. I can remove the thing completely in about 15 minutes.

Funny, my oldest cat has gotten into a bad habit of where she does try to take chicken off my dinner plate (she gets super excited when I bring home charbroiled chicken), and she did take a chip off my plate once when I was sipping on a margarita while enjoy fajitas & salsa.

We have not dyno'd a Chinese 2871 yet. There are a few being used, but no dyno sheets have filtered back to me. No idea what spool was like, sorry.
Stephanie

We did receive our first confirmation of a Chinese turbo failure today. It is being replaced under warranty. Customer gets a brand new turbo. Other than it has excessive shaft play I do not know specific details, other than it failed.
Stephanie

I'm making more torque on this chinacharger than ever before...doesn't help that it's a smaller compressor, but just sayin!

Brain, exactly which churbo are you using?
On your 1.6 right?
LINK! ;)

Thanks<3

the 50 trim straight T3. not a t3/t4. just a t3 50 trim. .48 a/r turbine housing.

http://www.boostedmiata.com/gallery2...ta/turbo/ebay/

You can see in the pics the turbine inducer blades are crazy large, I want to try those real Garrett parts one day and see how it affects spool rate.

Pretty cool link, got also turbo rebuild pics of T3 and T25 and many others of his project.