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linuxbox 05-26-2010 08:32 PM

How much horsepower can I expect?
 
1990 that will have the following installed this weekend:

Warner-Ishi (RH-B5?), with the Thunderbird upgrade on the compressor side @ ~10psi
I think begi manifold (or fm)
begi dp (or fm) I forget
370cc injectors
link ecu w/ afm delete
clutchmasters flywheel (8lb~) and stage one clutch
intercooled w/ bypass valve
2.5'' exhaust w/ hollowed out cat but with muffler


It will be dyno tuned immediately after having this installed.

Any ideas of about how much horsepower to expect? Thanks!

webby459 05-26-2010 08:41 PM

I have no idea what the turbo will get you, but stock fuel pressure with the 370s will be a limiting factor, somewhere around 175whp will max them out. I freaking hate the thought of injectors with no headroom, you really do find out they have nothing left only when it's too late.

linuxbox 05-26-2010 08:45 PM

I can install a walbro 255 also, or is there a better one? I'll order it now so I can install it while I'm doing everything else.

shuiend 05-26-2010 08:49 PM

It isnt the fuel pump that limits you. It is the injector sizing. You can either upgrade to large injectors or get a RFPR to push more fuel for them. Realistically the larger injectors is the path you need to go.

webby459 05-26-2010 08:49 PM


Originally Posted by linuxbox (Post 579036)
walbro 255

No offense here, but why? It'll just keep your return busier.

An afpr will buy you more headroom from your injectors (some), and there is no need for a big fuel pump with it or the stock pressure regulator. What are you trying to do?

dustinb 05-26-2010 09:07 PM

My friend had his 92 miata with RC 370CC injectors putting down 210HP at the wheel, but the injectors were basically at 100%. I would suspect you'll be at 180ish hp.

linuxbox 05-28-2010 02:58 PM

I'm getting 460's now to put in, will I need a AFPR or another fuel pump or is the stock pump alone fine?

dustinb 05-28-2010 03:01 PM

The stock fuel pump is fine, and you won't need an AFPR.

fhdez87 03-30-2013 11:11 PM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 579040)
It isnt the fuel pump that limits you. It is the injector sizing. You can either upgrade to large injectors or get a RFPR to push more fuel for them. Realistically the larger injectors is the path you need to go.

im installing my turbo next week, but im confused now about what you just said. im using 750cc inj. now do you think i could use BOSCH 69659 Fuel Pump? please help

Wuga 03-31-2013 12:39 AM

herp

Wuga 03-31-2013 12:40 AM


Originally Posted by fhdez87 (Post 995980)
im installing my turbo next week, but im confused now about what you just said. im using 750cc inj. now do you think i could use BOSCH 69659 Fuel Pump? please help

you dont need a new fuel pump install bigger injectors tune it with your ems and youre done

curly 03-31-2013 12:43 AM

Basic description of fuel system: The stock pump is only keeping 60psi in the rail before the fpr opens and lets the remaining pressure back to the tank, and it's a very easy job. When required, the injectors open to squirt fuel, and how big they are determines how much fuel they'll squirt. So your injectors will squirt up to 750cc of fuel per minute AT 60psi

If you buy an adjustable fuel pressure regulator, you can raise that pressure a little and get a little more out of your injectors. So your 750cc@60psi could be more like 850cc@65psi. I'm sure there's a formula to find out the exact flow at higher pressures, I don't know it.

But the stock pump doesn't run I to issues until upwards of 100-120psi, so don't replace it unless its having issues.

fhdez87 03-31-2013 04:29 AM

Yes i am gonna use a fuel presure regulator. Thanks for your reply man i really appretiate it.

curly 03-31-2013 04:53 AM

I wouldn't. Your 750cc injectors can support around 350-400hp. You're not making that much, and therefore wasting money with an adjustable fuel pressure regulator.

fhdez87 04-03-2013 03:09 AM


Originally Posted by curly (Post 996033)
I wouldn't. Your 750cc injectors can support around 350-400hp. You're not making that much, and therefore wasting money with an adjustable fuel pressure regulator.

yes it is true im just gonna make like 250 or less, but i have an old universal regulator from my 99 integra turbo and i didnt really use it, so its new :) thank you for the advice.

shuiend 04-03-2013 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by fhdez87 (Post 996978)
yes it is true im just gonna make like 250 or less, but i have an old universal regulator from my 99 integra turbo and i didnt really use it, so its new :) thank you for the advice.

So sell it and put that cash towards other things?

thenuge26 04-03-2013 09:31 AM

Frank you need to stop posting and start reading dude.

Bumping old threads which have exactly the information you were looking for is pretty weak.

Braineack 04-03-2013 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by fhdez87 (Post 996978)
yes it is true im just gonna make like 250 or less, but i have an old universal regulator from my 99 integra turbo and i didnt really use it, so its new :) thank you for the advice.

sounds like a perfect reason to add pointless complexity to a car you have no idea what youre doing with...


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