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aidandj 02-10-2016 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by borka (Post 1306420)
cxracing orders their stuff from China by the container load, so each turbo kit they sell they order 100's of pieces at a time.

MKTurbo, ARTECH, TSR, all except FM, build each kit to order, so obviously this takes time to build.

with a good amount of investment ~15K its very possible to send a good quality manifold/DP/Exhaust sample to China and have them make 100 copies, and ship back in a container. but this requires a large investment and the skills to micromanage the china factory, as they LOVE to cut corners and make a crappy product.

It's a lot more than 15k

borka 02-10-2016 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1306453)
It's a lot more than 15k

you are probably correct, i was just throwing a number out there.

but you will be surprised how cheap it is to manufacture stuff in china

18psi 02-10-2016 10:21 AM

Yeah and then you get your design ripped off and see half price replicas of your product on ebay and all the moron kids buying those because no matter how cheap you make something they will always want it cheaper and you're sitting on 10,000 manifolds now that are paperweights cause only people with more than 2 brain cells are buying them and those people are few and rare.


I'm serious about this too: look at begi/fm manifolds: 300 bucks for a quality cast manifold really isn't a lot of money. at all. and yet people still buy the janky taco-burrito or obx-r-s-typeR-typeX for under 100 regardless of the crappier quality and knockoff design

I'm not one of those people crying about the knockoffs, that's just how the world works. I'm just saying it's pretty difficult to put out a quality product these days because of where the scene is going with all these stupid broke high school kids that want a performance car for walmart tricycle money

TwoTone 02-10-2016 10:28 AM

I agree with you but being on a budget the proven taco manifold appeals to me. On the on their hand I still support FM with my happy meal clutch and timing kit.

18psi 02-10-2016 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by TwoTone (Post 1306465)
I agree with you but being on a budget the proven taco manifold appeals to me. On the on their hand I still support FM with my happy meal clutch and timing kit.

I can understand that.
The part that saddens me is that most kids these days don't understand how things work and take the whole budget thing to an extreme. 8 out of 10 fail.

Look at the stupid video: the kid spent 600, now the turbo is a paperweight, that's -250, and as soon as he replaces that his manifold will crack in a week. that's another -150. So that's 400 out of the 600 wasted, and I'm assuming that the rest of the stuff holds up, which it probably won't.

So really, is he saving money or is he wasting money?

Few are smart and make compromises where it's possible and don't when not. Most aren't

TwoTone 02-10-2016 10:36 AM

Preach

18psi 02-10-2016 10:38 AM

:giggle: Okay I'll step off my soap box.

GET OFF MY LAWN KIDS!! :D

Forrest95M 02-10-2016 10:38 AM

From what I have been reading this useds the ideology of the greddy kit, basic extremely low boost set up for a 10 to 15% increase in power, except it's terribly made.

18psi 02-10-2016 10:40 AM

The greddy was terribly made mediocrity too. Most the stuff in the greddy kits would fail as we've all observed over the years.

So basically they're knocking off an already flawed design, with even cheaper parts. Which is hilarious

Forrest95M 02-10-2016 10:42 AM

That's what I was getting at

Sparetire 02-10-2016 10:44 AM

The trick is to be the person profiting off the stupidity. Stupidity is the best investment you can make.

You just have to be OK with making crap products and/or screwing people out of cash.

18psi 02-10-2016 10:46 AM

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borka 02-10-2016 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by Sparetire (Post 1306478)
The trick is to be the person profiting off the stupidity. Stupidity is the best investment you can make.

You just have to be OK with making crap products and/or screwing people out of cash.

you just summed up 80% of ebay.

LyonsMiata27 02-10-2016 05:31 PM

Well its official, I have pre-paid Lars for an MK Turbo kit.
Now i just have to get my intercooler together

Braineack 02-14-2016 02:33 PM

The taco is proven to crack. When it does you're sol and have to buy a new one. Begi and fm manifolds are proven to last. If it cracks, they'll replace it for free.

I personally would never want a manifold whose studs stick into the exhaust flow path.

ryansmoneypit 02-14-2016 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by Slow30R (Post 1307652)
Super neat and instructional video very nice!!

This must be sarcastic.

aidandj 02-14-2016 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by ryansmoneypit (Post 1307664)
This must be sarcastic.

He is spammin hard. Not sarcastic

ryansmoneypit 02-14-2016 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1307666)
He is spammin hard. Not sarcastic

I've got some good stuff for your site. Finishing a few thing this week I think.

ryansmoneypit 02-14-2016 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi

I'm not one of those people crying about the knockoffs, that's just how the world works. I'm just saying it's pretty difficult to put out a quality product these days because of where the scene is going with all these stupid broke high school kids that want a performance car for walmart tricycle money

Unfortunate truth, not just for kids, but 95% of the world.

18psi 02-14-2016 11:59 PM

fixed quote.

Originally Posted by Slow30R (Post 1307652)
Super neat and instructional video very nice!!

tell us your favorite part


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