I like this BOV! But what is it?
 

The sound of this blow off valve is great i think. I know there is a on going Holy War between Miata people and if you should go Atmosph. or Recirc. Well
I've decided to make a little noise! Now i have heard this sound a few times such as on the Best motoring video that came with Sport Compact Car Magazine a few months ago. Thw WRX in the touge battle sounds the same. Some one said its a piston type bov. I really have no idea, any and all help would be great. Here is a clip let me no what you think and what it is.



http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...8d5b48f92e.htm

I could be wrong, but that sounds like the waste gate to me.

super sequential?

Sounds just like my Tial, which is badass I might add there's nothing around like them if you want to VTA.

Serious a Tial, Are there multi. versions of the tial or just one kind? What kind are you running if there is more then one? wouldnt happen to have a sound clip would you?

Yeah it's a Tial. There is only one kind and they're available through www.atpturbo.com Contact wideopentuning for a discount, he has forum member pricing in the for sale section. Looks like he has:
Tial 50mm BOV $202
versus
http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/me...egory_Code=BOV

The Tial isn't supposed to sound like that though. They are supposed to blow off in a clean whip sound. That is best accomplished by drilling and tapping the intake manifold and running a line straight to the BOV without T-ing it off to anything. Otherwise you'll get that fluttering sound as shown in that clip.

are you sure thats a TIAL bov? I have heard a lot of tials but none of them sound like that. It honestly sounds like a HKS 1st gen sequential bov. The first gen HKS would flutter a ton if it was put on the turbo side of the IC pipes farthest away from the throttle body. You can make any bov flutter by moving it farther away from the thottle body and closer to the turbo outlet. I had a HKS 1st gen sequential right after my turbo compressor outlet and it would flutter all day long.

I think what you say about the flutter is true, but i think the sound might just really be a tial. This eclipse run said its running a tile too. This one doesnt flutter and you have to listen a little bit harder but i think its it. Let me know what you think ok.

http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...3000b6d122.htm

And here is anotherone on a wrx its alot clearer

http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...56f1a8e9f2.htm

sounds exactly like Brad's (newbsauce) $20 ebay BOV.

the problem is, that's what you would describe as flutter. and it's not good or cool. I can make my bov sound just like it is I crank the adjustment screw to the stops. It means the BOV is too tight.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1-UNI...48673087QQrdZ1

Most the vacuum ports on the Miata intake manifolds are too small. Thats the cause of the flutter. I did a writeup on it over a year ago when I had a similar issue with my Tial. New larger vacuum ports and only clean crisp blow offs. Even at 3.5 psi.

Will the cheapo version brain gave me a link to work? it almost looks like the turbo xs.

Yea the flutter is caused by the adjustment screw being too tight. I used to have the turkey gobble type sound of the flutter and I loosend it a bit, now all i have is PPSSSHHHHHHT!

UHH. Just recirculate your BOV and run a open wastegate.

That first vid does sound like a super-sequential.

It might not be the tial but it sounds just like mine when i had it running T'd off the tiny vacuum port on the front of the manifold just after the Throttle Body. My Tial was also about 8 inches from the TB.

Nice and ricey. Does it come with stickers?

Frank

Come'on now Frank, what makes a BOV ricey?

I like the flutery bov's just watch out for turbo surge.

To me, buying something for a chirpy sound is ricey. Gimme a crushed DSM, modded WRX, or simple Bosch BOV/BPV, hold the chirp. :)


Frank

The Tial when being properly actuated will sound like a whip.
I'll pass on the chirp as well. For the most part when you run into a car on the street and its chirpy its usually not very fast. That shit is for kids.

my greddy type R will blow off fine on the miata... but you gotta use BOTH the boost and vac ports. I can get it to blow off just by blipping the throttle under the hood. quite a bit of air comes out of that thing even off-boost.

Matt

This is a miata fourm. We are all kids in a way. :gay:

I happen to love my HKS SSQ and it will chirp all day long. :eek4:

The GReddy Type R is a quality valve.

what's the difference in the R and S I have the S.

I didnt know so i got the RS. alittleaboth

Different strokes. I'm getting annoyed at my loud cars. The EWG on my Forester just bothers me now. Time to plumb it into the DP.

Every time I hear a funky BOV especially on a DSM or WRX, I think, "Dude should have spent money on a bigger turbo, or something that actually makes the car faster".

Frank

Ok I guess we have one exception to the rule.

size.

http://www.y8s.com/albums/turbo/bigbov.sized.jpg

ahhh yes, way bigger. my port is only 1" O.D.

OK now in response to some of the things said, one blow off valves are not ricey, i mean ricey means what that its tries to be a performance car from japan? Look at what freaking forum your in, we drive freaking little japanese Jelly beans! so until you switch it up to a saturn sky or a Fiero or something just keep quite.

Then to the comment about spending money on something to make your car go faster, last time i checked your not going to save any money recirc. then grabing a cheap noise maker. Just be thankful the put some thought into protecting the turbo then just going big and hurting something like you might suggest.

And as for the one about chirpy cars being slow that was just retarded and it deserves a freaking Judo chop.............. Word to yo Mothas!!!!!!

I figured I wouldn't get called a ricer with that much flow capability :eek:

RICER:greddy:

Just stating what I have seen in my experience. You have a chirpy car thats fast?


The Type R is not chirpy at all. We have one on the red turbo Vr6 Gti.

Now all you need is a turbo that requires that much blowin' off.

Frank

http://www.y8s.com/albums/gt25/gt25_86ar_01.sized.jpg

plus all the hot air I'm capable of...

44lb compressor? Big for a Miata I guess. :)

Frank

70 A/R, that's what my buddy runs on his turbo-chicken. that is a lot of turbo for a 1.8L, but to each his own.

I was a "GT" early adopter. Back when there were only a few true GT series turbos. No mix and match with the old T series and a fancy new name. New CHRA, new turbine, new compressor, new housings... old skool.

well its not as much turbo as you would think. Its a GT2540R. It utilizes a GT series GT28RS based turbine wheel and a 43lb compressor wheel ( if my memory serves ). Its good for just over 400whp...the wheels are a little bit of a mismatch but it does spool fast for the amount of power that its capable of.

cheap bov > loud ricer garb.

bzzt ;)

GT2876R
it's a little much compressor for the disco potato hotside (.64 A/R in my case) but it seems to work pretty well if a little laggy.

Matt