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Stein 06-24-2008 09:05 AM

I think I'm going to wuss out
 
Might be changing my tune here. Brain isn't building MS anymore. Chad isn't building MS anymore. Matt said that they don't have a good PNP NB solution yet. I don't feel comfortable about building MS for an NB myself. So, I'm thinking about going super-minimal.

T25 (have)
Begi DP (have)
Homebuilt mani (have flanges)
No intercooler
FPR (the only thing I need)
Pierburg pump (have)
Stock exhaust
Stock clutch
Stock timing
Stock injectors

I have swapped emails with Stephanie about their new low cost timing and fuel system. As she hasn't disclosed pricing and availability publicly, I won't go into it, but one significant limitation is currently dissuading me from investing the money in that system. Not saying when it is released I won't do it, but right now leaning away.

I know someone here is running stock timing on an NB, can't remember who, but I have seen it in his sig.

I would limit it to 5-6 psi, whatever I could run on stock timing. No, it won't be perfect. No, it won't be super quick, but at least I could get out of my own way. It should get me 140-145 WHP or so for $600 so still a good return on investment. It's not the money, though. I'd gladly pay for the MS if I could get one built, which would let me do what I wanted to do in the first place.

If you are running a boosted NB on stock timing, please let me know.

Otherwise, what are your thoughts on this?

olderguy 06-24-2008 09:22 AM

How do you plan on using the FPR and Pierburg with non-return fuel system?

Stein 06-24-2008 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by olderguy (Post 275154)
How do you plan on using the FPR and Pierburg with non-return fuel system?

Crap. I don't know. Should have bought an NA.

jasonrobo02 06-24-2008 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by olderguy (Post 275154)
How do you plan on using the FPR and Pierburg with non-return fuel system?

There have been posts here detailing a scheme that should work. I didn't pay too much attention because I don't have an NB, but I remember that it didn't seem difficult to implement.

SloS13 06-24-2008 10:04 AM

Have you looked into the AEM F/IC?

Zabac 06-24-2008 10:13 AM

Stein, as I see it, you have time and are not in a hurry, make sure you mention that to Chad as he may then do it slowly in his minimal spare time, he is a pretty stand up guy and loves to help people out if he can. I'd hate to see you not go through with this.

compy 06-24-2008 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by jasonrobo02 (Post 275162)
There have been posts here detailing a scheme that should work. I didn't pay too much attention because I don't have an NB, but I remember that it didn't seem difficult to implement.

More difficult than easily building a MS.

y8s 06-24-2008 10:27 AM

wanna buy a used hydra so i can upgrade?

jayc72 06-24-2008 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 275181)
wanna buy a used hydra so i can upgrade?

Are you jumping on the megasquirt bandwagon too? ;)

y8s 06-24-2008 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by jayc72 (Post 275184)
Are you jumping on the megasquirt bandwagon too? ;)

no not yet.
and i'm mostly joking. i was half-wanting to upgrade to hydra 2.6.

Stein 06-24-2008 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 275186)
no not yet.
and i'm mostly joking. i was half-wanting to upgrade to hydra 2.6.


Great, I just sent you a PM, too.:mad:

y8s 06-24-2008 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by Stein (Post 275188)
Great, I just sent you a PM, too.:mad:

just bought a house. I dont have a spare $1000 for car parts at the moment. I gotta build a garage!

chucker 06-24-2008 11:26 AM

jack

What's it cost to build a garage in D.C. these days?

I just got a quote for $48k for 24x24x10. That didn't include the shit I was going to do myself: trim, paint, roof, plumbing, electrical, driveway/drainage, permits.

$48k gets me a slab and minor grading ($19k), framing, T-111 siding, OSB roof sheathing, a human door, two single car doors and a couple lousy windows. Period.

Bullshit. I'm going to do a steel building instead. I figure after the slab, a kit and a couple day-laborers to help me put it together, I should be done for <$20...

/jack

Stein 06-24-2008 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by chucker (Post 275223)
jack


I just got a quote for $48k for 24x24x10.

Holy crap. My insulated 30x56 steel building with windows, full eaves, two overhead garage doors with full concrete cost me $15,500. I did my own grading. This was six years ago, though but still...

kotomile 06-24-2008 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by Stein (Post 275160)
Should have bought an NA.

+1

Seems the NA is the all-around solution, eh?

sv650_ck 06-24-2008 12:17 PM

Hate to mention it in this forum, but my pc pro ($300 w/o pnp harness) has been working really well on my '00 with stock timing @~7psi (intercooled). I was originally holding out for the mini-exede but they're still not available.

y8s 06-24-2008 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by chucker (Post 275223)
jack

What's it cost to build a garage in D.C. these days?

I just got a quote for $48k for 24x24x10. That didn't include the shit I was going to do myself: trim, paint, roof, plumbing, electrical, driveway/drainage, permits.

$48k gets me a slab and minor grading ($19k), framing, T-111 siding, OSB roof sheathing, a human door, two single car doors and a couple lousy windows. Period.

Bullshit. I'm going to do a steel building instead. I figure after the slab, a kit and a couple day-laborers to help me put it together, I should be done for <$20...

/jack

whoa.

building everything myself except what I dont have equipment to do, I doubt it would be over 7000 for a one-car garage. probably less. depends on how hungry contractors are. btw, i'm building it in northern virginia.

jayc72 06-24-2008 02:05 PM

I built my garage last fall. It's 22X24X9 and has an attic that's 10X24X5. The concrete slab was already there so I didn't have to do that work or "pay" for it. For the finished structure and electrical I am into it for about $10K. I'm running gas to it this fall and installing a furnace, I've already insulated it. To have the same thing built by someone would be about $25-30K. The only work I didn't do was the shingles, the pitch was pretty steep and I'm not a fan of heights.

Braineack 06-24-2008 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by Stein (Post 275147)
Might be changing my tune here. Brain isn't building MS anymore.



No money and track day pending on Aug 23-24...I may be changing MY tune...

Stein 06-24-2008 05:56 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 275383)
No money and track day pending on Aug 23-24...I may be changing MY tune...


Brain, you have a PM.


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