ridethecliche

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Stock 2000 miata with FM setup from Manifold back.
2.5 exhaust with cat. Fab9 vibrant 'stage 1' intercooler. Running stock timing map from brain's basemap.
Turbo is a SR20 modified to a '2560'. FM manifold was modified with a tial EWG (by thirdgen).

-Make sure boost cut was set up for 12 psi
-Disconnect wg line
-Do a 4th gear pull starting at ~2k rpm

Started at TPS of 3.2, psi -12.2 and 1687 rpm.

0 PSI : 1771 RPM at TPS 38.3
1 PSI : 1886 RPM at TPS 100 (first reading at 100 TPS)
2 PSI : 2105 RPM
3 PSI : 2174 RPM
4 PSI : 2370 RPM
5 PSI : 2551 RPM
6 PSI : 2742 RPM
7 PSI : 2883 RPM
8 PSI : 3005 RPM
9 PSI : 3102 RPM
10 PSI : 3200 RPM
11 PSI : 3253 RPM
12 PSI : 3349 RPM
/Boost cut @ 12

Should I do this again and start when holding the 'boost' at about atm pressure with the throttle? In any event, this doesn't seem too bad.



Log here: https://www.miataturbo.net/build-thr...5/#post1430616

Savington

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Engine: Trackspeed Stage 2 VVT longblock (8.6:1 83.5mm Supertechs)
Turbo: EFR6758 0.64a/r
Manifold: Trackspeed EFR T25
Downpipe Size/Style: Trackspeed EFR 3"
Exhaust Size: 3"
Exhaust Components: 3" Enthuza metal cat + catback
Intercooler Core Size: Precision 350hp
Intake Manifold: EUDM Squaretop
Headwork: OEM
Engine Management: MSLabs MS3 Basic
Other Spoolin' Helpers/Hurters: CA91, GM D585s, 3.636:1s

FIFTH GEAR PULL: (equivalent of a 4th gear pull in a 5-speed car)

RPM Boost(psi)
2023rpm 0.1psi
2060rpm 1.0psi
2152rpm 2.0psi
2268rpm 3.0psi
2404rpm 4.1psi
2536rpm 5.0psi
2621rpm 6.0psi
2720rpm 7.0psi
2811rpm 8.0psi
2911rpm 9.0psi
2988rpm 10.1psi
3079rpm 11.2psi
3135rpm 12.1psi
3218rpm 13.1psi
3263rpm 14.2psi
3304rpm 15.1psi
3370rpm 16.0psi
3420rpm 17.0psi
3484rpm 18.4psi

sixshooter

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Engine: '96 (8.6:1 Supertechs), Crower forged rods
Turbo: GTX2867R 0.86a/r IWG
Manifold: Artech Tubular Top Mount
Downpipe Size/Style: Artech 3"
Exhaust Size: 3"
Exhaust Components: 3" MKTurbo Magnaflow
Intercooler Core Size: Medium-sized Ebay junk, I'll measure and insert info here later
Intake Manifold: stock '96 NA8
Headwork: Ported by Miata2fast, small stock NA8 cams, hyd lifters
Engine Management: MSLabs MS3 Basic
Other Spoolin' Helpers/Hurters: Skunky2 TB, Air filter mounted right on turbo for hot air intake, GM 585s, 3.636:1s,

FIFTH GEAR PULL: (equivalent of a 4th gear pull in a 5-speed car)

RPM Boost(psi)
1900rpm 0.4psi
2000rpm 1.0psi
2200rpm 1.7psi
2400rpm 2.3psi
2600rpm 3.0psi
2800rpm 3.7psi
3000rpm 4.2psi
3200rpm 4.8psi
3400rpm 5.4psi
3600rpm 6.0psi
3800rpm 6.8psi
4000rpm 8.6psi
4200rpm 9.9psi
4400rpm 12.1psi
4600rpm 16.0psi
4800rpm 18.6psi
5000rpm 20.3psi
5200rpm 21.1psi

Ted75zcar

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Thanks Six! Super informative for me.

do you have a VD by any chance?

sixshooter

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Uh, nope. Clean bill of health.

Ted75zcar

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nice, good to hear.

very curious to know if you get the typical tq fall-off after say 5kRPM with that turbine housing and ex combo.

sixshooter

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Next time I'm at my computer I will upload that particular log

Ted75zcar

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sweet, thanks!

Mpliki

Engine: 99-00 wiseco pistons, eagle rods(so far so good)
Turbo: GTX2867R 0.64a/r IWG
Manifold: Custom Tubular equal length Top Mount
Downpipe Size/Style: Custom 3"
Exhaust Size: Custom 3"
Exhaust Components: Custom catless pipe
Intercooler Core Size: Medium-sized (L:23 T:2,6 H:4.3) will change soon with a bigger one
Intake manifold: stock 99
Headwork: None
Engine Management: MS2pnp
Other Spoolin' Helpers/Hurters: 6 speed, 3,636 torsen, no air filter(will put one today) stock coils(i have aem 30-2853 coils ready to install)

FIFTH GEAR PULL: (equivalent of a 4th gear pull in a 5-speed car)

RPM Boost(Kpa) (psi)
2200rpm 107.7 1.11
2400rpm 118.6 2.69
2600rpm 122.3 3.23
2800rpm 127.2 3.94
3000rpm 133.6 4.87
3200rpm 141.8 6.06
3400rpm 150.1 7.26
3600rpm 170.0 10.15
3800rpm 186.3 12.5
4000rpm 204.6 15.17
4266rpm 224.4 17.75
4400rpm 226.4 18.33
4600rpm 225.8 18.24
4800rpm 224.7 18.08

kamel6k

Engine: BP4W (9:1 84mm Supertechs)
Turbo: VF35
Manifold: Kraken Subaru Log
Downpipe Size/Style: 3" Custom
Exhaust Size: 3"
Exhaust Components: 3" Magnaflow metal cat + Magnaflow big mufler
Intercooler Core Size: Ebay 450MM X 175MM X 65MM
Intake Manifold: Squaretop
Headwork: Home DIY P&P
Engine Management: MSLabs MS3 Basic
Other Spoolin' Helpers/Hurters: 98Ron, EBC, 3.636:1s

FIFTH GEAR PULL: (equivalent of a 4th gear pull in a 5-speed car)

Time RPM TPS MAP Boost
s RPM % kPa psi
0 1923.0 100.3 102.2 0.3
0.067 1934.0 100.3 102.7 0.3
0.134 1940.0 100.3 103.4 0.4
0.201 1950.0 100.3 104.2 0.6
0.27 1958.0 100.3 104.9 0.7
0.339 1967.0 100.3 105.9 0.8
0.406 1971.0 100.3 106.4 0.9
0.474 1988.0 100.3 107.4 1.0
0.541 1997.0 100.3 108.1 1.1
0.608 2006.0 100.3 108.8 1.2
0.675 2013.0 100.5 109.6 1.3
0.74 2020.0 100.4 110.3 1.4
0.808 2034.0 100.4 111.0 1.5
0.873 2043.0 100.4 112.0 1.7
0.94 2057.0 100.4 112.7 1.8
1.007 2063.0 100.4 113.5 1.9
1.074 2080.0 100.4 114.2 2.0
1.14 2081.0 100.4 114.9 2.1
1.207 2095.0 100.4 115.9 2.2
1.275 2102.0 100.4 116.9 2.4
1.342 2112.0 100.4 117.6 2.5
1.41 2130.0 100.4 118.1 2.6
1.479 2136.0 100.4 118.8 2.7
1.55 2148.0 100.4 119.6 2.8
1.617 2161.0 100.4 120.3 2.9
1.687 2172.0 100.4 121.0 3.0
1.754 2184.0 100.4 121.5 3.1
1.821 2194.0 100.4 122.5 3.2
1.887 2206.0 100.4 123.2 3.3
1.954 2215.0 100.5 123.9 3.4
2.023 2229.0 100.4 124.4 3.5
2.091 2241.0 100.4 125.4 3.6
2.16 2256.0 100.4 125.9 3.7
2.228 2268.0 100.4 126.6 3.8
2.296 2280.0 100.4 127.2 3.9
2.363 2291.0 100.4 128.1 4.0
2.431 2293.0 100.4 128.6 4.1
2.496 2317.0 100.4 129.4 4.2
2.564 2328.0 100.4 130.1 4.3
2.631 2336.0 100.4 130.8 4.4
2.699 2352.0 100.4 131.6 4.5
2.767 2357.0 100.3 132.3 4.6
2.831 2375.0 100.3 133.5 4.8
2.899 2386.0 100.3 134.0 4.9
2.967 2403.0 100.3 134.7 5.0
3.034 2415.0 100.3 135.5 5.1
3.099 2429.0 100.3 136.1 5.2
3.167 2439.0 100.3 137.4 5.4
3.234 2451.0 100.3 137.9 5.4
3.302 2472.0 100.3 138.9 5.6
3.371 2480.0 100.3 139.6 5.7
3.438 2499.0 100.3 140.3 5.8
3.506 2508.0 100.3 141.6 6.0
3.575 2527.0 100.3 142.0 6.0
3.643 2534.0 100.3 143.0 6.2
3.711 2559.0 100.3 144.0 6.3
3.778 2571.0 100.3 144.7 6.4
3.845 2589.0 100.3 145.7 6.6
3.913 2595.0 100.3 146.5 6.7
3.98 2605.0 100.3 147.7 6.9
4.047 2622.0 100.3 148.4 7.0
4.114 2648.0 100.3 150.1 7.2
4.181 2655.0 100.3 150.3 7.2
4.248 2681.0 100.3 152.1 7.5
4.316 2680.0 100.3 152.8 7.6
4.383 2703.0 100.3 154.5 7.8
4.451 2722.0 100.3 155.0 7.9
4.518 2732.0 100.3 156.7 8.2
4.585 2760.0 100.3 157.7 8.3
4.652 2759.0 100.3 159.4 8.6
4.719 2794.0 100.5 160.9 8.8
4.786 2787.0 100.4 162.6 9.0
4.854 2832.0 100.4 163.6 9.2
4.92 2826.0 100.4 165.2 9.4
4.987 2868.0 100.4 166.7 9.6
5.055 2855.0 100.4 168.0 9.8
5.121 2894.0 100.4 169.7 10.0
5.19 2902.0 100.4 171.4 10.3
5.257 2924.0 100.4 172.8 10.5
5.324 2947.0 100.4 175.0 10.8
5.391 2965.0 100.4 176.8 11.1
5.458 2978.0 100.4 178.7 11.4
5.526 3008.0 100.4 181.4 11.7
5.593 3008.0 100.4 183.4 12.0
5.661 3039.0 100.4 185.6 12.4
5.728 3058.0 100.4 187.8 12.7
5.795 3086.0 100.4 190.9 13.1
5.862 3096.0 100.4 193.8 13.5
5.929 3133.0 100.4 196.3 13.9
5.997 3140.0 100.5 199.7 14.4
6.067 3172.0 100.5 202.4 14.8
6.134 3194.0 100.4 205.8 15.3
6.203 3212.0 100.4 209.4 15.8
6.268 3255.0 100.4 211.5 16.1
6.335 3271.0 100.4 214.1 16.5
6.402 3313.0 100.4 214.9 16.6
6.47 3335.0 100.4 215.3 16.7


5th Gear Boost Response:

@3500RPM

Time RPM TPS MAP Boost
s RPM % kPa psi
-0.27 3448 12.6 70.2 -4.3
-0.20 3456 17 80.9 -2.8
-0.13 3485 32 101.3 0.2
-0.07 3476 57.9 109.6 1.4
0.00 3480 100 113 1.9
0.07 3489 100 116.4 2.4
0.13 3496 100 120.6 3.0
0.20 3505 100 124.6 3.6
0.27 3521 100 129.1 4.2
0.34 3530 100 133.7 4.9
0.40 3540 100 138.1 5.5
0.47 3555 100 143.2 6.3
0.54 3570 100 147.8 6.9
0.60 3581 100 153.2 7.7
0.67 3599 100 158.4 8.5
0.74 3622 100 163.7 9.2
0.81 3636 100 169.4 10.1
0.87 3645 100 175.9 11.0
0.94 3668 100 181.6 11.8
1.01 3681 100 187.3 12.7
1.07 3701 100 192.9 13.5

@4500RPM

Time RPM TPS MAP Boost
s RPM % kPa psi
-0.20 4450 15.5 75.5 -3.6
-0.13 4454 23.4 96.5 -0.5
-0.07 4521 89.4 116.5 2.4
0.00 4475 100 126.4 3.8
0.07 4523 100 138.5 5.6
0.13 4516 100 151.3 7.4
0.20 4552 100 167.8 9.8
0.27 4561 100 186 12.5
0.34 4594 100 200.6 14.6
0.40 4611 100 208.7 15.8
0.47 4636 100 213.4 16.4 Boost Target


Engine is still on break in oil and process and still need some adjustments to do in the overall map.

Ted75zcar

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Edit: format changed

Mpliki

I tried to post my spool data, about a month ago and i got a responce, that my post would have to be reviewed by an admin. What happened?

sixshooter

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New people have to be approved for posting initially because of spambots and spampeeps.

Mpliki

Ok. Good to know.

Sooo am i approved now?

albuquerquefx

Engine: MZR 2.0L (factory stock 2009 NC)
Turbo: BW EFR6758 vband 0.85 A/R
Manifold: Gleason Manufacturing (Fab9 kit)
Downpipe Size/Style: 3" stainless vBand (Fab9 kit)
Exhaust Size: 3" stainless all the way back (Fab9 kit)
Exhaust Components: 3" Vibrant integrated metal cat in the midpipe + Vibrant single 3" vBand inlet / dual 2.5" outlet (Fab9 kit)
Intercooler Core Size: Treadstone 30"x9.25"x3.25" with end tanks (Fab9 kit)
Engine Management: Stock ECU + EcuTeK hybrid speed density tune for this particular run...
Other Spoolin' Helpers/Hurters: TurboSmart IWG75 dual-port actuator on a 7psi spring, 4-port MAC solenoid, eBoost2 at about 43% duty and WG pressure of 13.5psi

This was in FOURTH GEAR on a SIX SPEED transmission, but this was because the very first OE run on the dyno was also in 4th gear and I never caught it until it was too late. Wanted to be consistent in my later comparison runs... As such, I have some better spool waiting for me when I go back and have it retested on my own tune and in 5th gear as it should be.


2300RPM: 2psi
2550RPM: 3psi
2700RPM: 5psi
2900RPM: 7psi
3200RPM : 10psi
3400RPM: 12psi
3650RPM: 15psi

miataman04

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Nice

1991

Reserving my spot for some shitty spool data.
Engine: Stock 94 9:1 comp
Turbo: Garrett GT2876R BB / .86 ar 5 bolt ex housing
Manifold: HKS cast top mount
Downpipe Size/Style: Divorced 2.25/1.5 downpipe -> 3in collector
Exhaust Size: 3in to rear of cat, 2.5in back
Exhaust Components: 2.25/1.5 to 3in collector 305SS downpipe, 3in flex pipe to 3in VBand, 3in FabPros Cat, 3in -> 2.5in then straight pipe back
Intercooler Core Size: 27x7x2.5 ebay shitcooler, Treadstone on its way. 2in hot side, 2.5in cold side piping
Engine Management: Megasquirt pnp2 self tuned
Other Spoolin' Helpers/Hurters: Waiting on new WG and EBC in the mail. Adjustable WG and Mac 3 port EBC

Its worse than I thought itd be.

cwatson

Engine: 1.8L 1999
Turbo: TD04HL-20T, 9 Blade Turbine, 6+6 Compressor Wheel
Manifold: DIY Log (1.5'' IIRC)
Downpipe Size/Style: 2.5 to 3.0''
Exhaust Size: 3"
Exhaust Components: Big Vibrant Resonator, MT Magnaflow
Intercooler Core Size: Bar/Plate 16''x9''x4'', 2.25 in, 2.50 out, over-the-radiator plumbing
Engine Management: MS3 Pro
Other Spoolin' Helpers/Hurters: Tial 38mm EWG, 4P EBC, LS9 Coils, AC/PS, 8.7:1

Measured 290-300WHP on a MD @ 225kPa (18psi). It'll hold 275kPa to 7000RPM, haven't tried more...

For the spool data below, EBC set point was 250kPa (22 psi)

6th gear:
Starting RPM, time from 100 to 240 kpa (20psi):
3000, ~700ms
3500, ~700ms
4000, ~360ms
4500, ~230ms
5000, ~330ms (5th gear)

5th gear:

andyfloyd

Engine: 84.5mm BP4W
Turbo: GT2560R
Manifold: FM cast
Downpipe Size/Style: FM turbine elbow, FM 2.5"
Exhaust Size: 3"
Exhaust Components: Borla XR1, custom heimholtz chamber
Intercooler Core Size: Vibrant 350hp core
Intake Manifold: Squaretop
Headwork: Stock BP4W w/ bp5a intake cam
Engine Management: Hydra 2.5
Other Spoolin' Helpers/Hurters:
Trans & Rear End Ratio: 6 speed, 4.3 diff
Rear tire size: 225/45/15


2050 100 1.2
2100 100 1.2
2100 100 1.2
2100 100 1.2
2100 100 1.9
2150 100 1.6
2150 100 1.9
2150 100 2.2
2200 100 2.2
2200 100 2.5
2200 100 2.5
2200 100 2.5
2250 100 2.8
2250 100 2.8
2250 100 2.8
2300 100 3.1
2300 100 2.8
2300 100 3.1
2350 100 3.4
2350 100 3.1
2350 100 3.1
2400 100 3.4
2400 100 3.7
2400 100 3.7
2450 100 4.1
2450 100 4.1
2450 100 4.1
2500 100 4.4
2500 100 4.4
2550 100 4.4
2550 100 4.4
2550 100 4.7
2550 100 4.7
2600 100 5
2600 100 5.6
2650 100 5.3
2650 100 5.6
2650 100 5.6
2700 100 5.9
2700 100 6.2
2750 100 6.6
2750 100 6.9
2800 100 7.2
2800 100 7.5
2800 100 7.8
2850 100 8.4
2900 100 8.7
2900 100 8.7
2900 100 9
2950 100 9.7
2950 100 10
3000 100 10.3
3000 100 10.6
3050 100 11.2
3050 100 11.5
3100 100.4 11.9
3100 100 12.2
3150 100 12.5
3150 100 13.1
3200 100 13.1
3250 100 13.4
3250 100 13.4
3300 100 13.7
3300 100 14
3350 100.4 14

m2cupcar

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Engine: FE3 (FE-dohc) 2.0L
Turbo: $99 eBay hybrid T turbo: 50trim 50AR T4 compressor, Stage 3 63AR T3 Turbine (measured for Garrett spec match, wheel/blade contours not matched)
Manifold: SS Autochrome long tube top mount for BP, flange ported and drilled for FE
Downpipe Size/Style: 3"
Exhaust Size: 3"
Exhaust Components: Magnaflow 12589
Intercooler Core Size: eBay "delta fin" 20x12x2.5
Intake Manifold: Magnus aftermarket DSM sheetmetal mated to stock FE flange/stubs
Headwork: None (stock)
Engine Management: CoolEFI Jaguar Alpha 0.7 running FreeEMS open source code
Other Spoolin' Helpers/Hurters: 200 cell metal cat, stock Ford 65mm throttle body, 38mm eBay EWG on #4 runner, stock 1.6 coils
Trans & Rear End Ratio: Miata 5 speed, 4th gear pull, 3.6 torsen
Rear tire size: 205/50/15

RPM = PSI / KPA
1830 = onset
2500 = 3.3 / 123.15
2750 = 5.3 / 136.46
3000 = 6.8 / 146.31
3100 = 7.9 / 154.50
3200 = 9.4 / 164.66
3300 = 11.7 / 180.80
3400 = 14.3 / 198.65
3500 = 16.1 / 210.85
3609 = 22.0 / 251.99