If you were going to build an NC turbo...
 

What would you build? Not a -skys the limit budget- Say 3-4k


Anyone want to make me a fudging manifold?

I'll only offer ideas if you swear off stripes and teeth. :p

Thats ok I'm painting them on next time, And i'll put even more teeth on just for you like a real shark 27 rows of teeth. Who needs room, IC's are over rated anyway.

Gt28 turbo.. Exede, Custom manifold, custom IC setup, ???? = profit?!

What are you going to do about engine management?

I don't see $3k going anywhere. Get some sway bars and put the rest in a Roth.

Sounds like it'll all be custom. Who makes flanges? What other engines' flanges could be used (other Mazdas/Fords?) to prototype a manifold?

How much downtime can you afford?

Isn't HKS (or maybe Blitz, can't remember) working on something?

I'm pretty sure I could do it pretty well for $4K including a new turbo and Xede.

I'd likely run the following and do the fab work myself:
GT3071R ($1250 new?)
Homemade ceramic coated mild steel manifold (~$250)
3" home-made exhaust (pyper metal core cat, magnaflow muffler) (~$450)
Biggest IC I could fit (like $150ish on ebay)
Xede ($1,200)
550cc Injectors ($350)
Clutch (don't know what's out there for NC, guessing around $450)
IC Piping ($250 including couplers and t-bolts from siliconintakes)
Reasonable used BOV ($150)

So, minus my time that adds up to ~$4,500... of course a used turbo and injectors would get that below your $4K goal.

*edit* xede for NC is only $900

isn't this the right time for a remote turbo? that's how BEGI did it for their prototype, I think there's a lot of stuff in the way on the exhaust side.

Apparently all the turbo stuffs will fit with a battery relocation kit.

The MX5's that race in Koni Challenge with us are fast man. I'd throw some sick cams in it and leave it be. Talk to Freedom Motorsports if you want more info on that.

I would personally remote mount the battery to open up space... I still don't like the idea of a remote mount turbo...

Saving money is over rated. I want to die happy not rich.



Granted, I do not know much about which turbo is better for what application. So about making me a manifold.....
Down time is not a big deal, it's not a dd. I have to do some repairs to the beyatch anyway for a couple weeks. So while the front clip is off...

Get an exhaust gasket and send it off to some company that makes flanges. They'll send you a flange to start building a manifold. Weir Technologies offers said services, but I would NOT recommend them if timely has ANYTHING to do with with your build. So find someone besides them and get a flange made. If you can't fab a manifold buy the flanges and stock and take it to a fabricator and cut him a check.

Good idea, I Should have thought of that already. I'll be picking one up this week.

What other options, do you guys recommend for a turbo? Making power early is more preferable to me over max top end, If that makes any sense.

the GT2560 is the universally accepted turbo here for good everything without sacrificing anything. There ya go. If you don't "conform" to use it, then you should maybe mention some of the goals of the setup, and which are more important than others. Seeing how you can't have everything, the GT2560 seems to be the compromise of options most here accept. That said, I'm getting a GT32. :)

I'd say with a 2.0 get a 2860RS or 2871. Preferred turbos for other 2.0's.

edit: Good move on the Turbo NC. If I had the money, I'd own the NC. I love that car. I think its one of the most attractive cars on the road.

If something is done about the stock ricer taillights....I'll almost agree.

At 9k for an 08 with 2k miles, I can live with the tail lights even if they are kind of pimpish.

9k?! Thats a helluva deal! You can purchase red film covers for the tail lights if you wanted.



found: http://lamin-x.com/ecommerce/os/cata...29678d76434dc3

Educate me, What is the difference between 2860RS - 2871 - GT2560

As far as goals, other than actually completeing it, I would like more power in the low end of things.

How much was wrong with her to get it for 8K....it's not a PRHT is it?

No prht. Front damage, nothing major. 1.5 k in parts, couple hours in the paint booth for rent and we have lift off. Ebay is awesome for parts, even really new shit. I'll take a brand new miata for under 12k paid for any day.
Well you have to be able to do the work yourself, or at least alot of it. Still though out the door a new one is 24-27.

Sounds good. Will be almost free after selling off the NA and the parts.

Working on boxing your stuff up as we speak by the way.

Shooting for a bit more than free. ;)

Ahh, I saw that car. Good score. You're not putting the airbags back in I presume...

I am, I used to work for Mazda so I have alot of hook-ups on things. A little work for one of my parts guys and i got a free bags. I had to buy the controller though.
I usually just flip them but this one I kind of like. I could have lived with out the manumatic though. I figure i'll keep it til they give it a facelift in 2010.

How well do you think the automatic will handle the additional power?

Well the thing is, once you get it fixed as long as the title isn't salvage, you could trade/sell it and get a manual one. The manumatic ones are more expensive iirc anyways.

Or get an rx8.

;)

Well I did some rough calculations, and at around 240 hp (sorta random guess) with the turbo, you would be looking for a pressure ratio of around 2.2 with 28 ish lb/min of flow.


A compressor map from a gt2871R seems to fit perfect

Hope that helps :)


:giggle:

No clue. I'll throw a mini broom and dustpan in the trunk though just in case.

I'll wait til 10 when they give it a facelift.


Helps tremendously as soon as I translate it to noob english lol.
What flange is gt2871R?

The size of the housings and wheels.

These pages are your friend:
http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...gt_basics.html
http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...ochargers.html

The "R" suffix denotes a ball-bearing center. The "S" is a semi-meaningless differentiator between sub-models of the same turbo.

Look at the links joe gave you, it explains the equations and how it works.



http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/me...egory_Code=GRT



The turbo can have a T25 or T3 flange... I would get a .63 a/r on the exhaust side.



If your planning on like upwards of 350 hp, you might want to consider a gt30... What are you aiming for anyway? How well built is the NC engine?