Intercooler is installed....
 

I just finished up my intercooler install. I have to head to work now, but Ill take pics later to show you how easy it really is. It took me 3 hours total to mount and install custom pipes. The pipes go around the radiator, and it really is a no-brainer that going around is much better than going under. Plus, this way the pipes are shorter and are less likely to see road debris, or get scraped because they sit too low. I dont have PS or AC so I had like tons of room up front and I was able to run 2.5in pipes all the way around. I will have to upgrade these cheesy ass clamps that CX Racing supplies, but the 28x8x3.5" intercooler and their aluminum pipes are very high quality. I got out of this whole deal for 300, exactly why I sold my starion and pipes for....not bad eh? :)

not bad at all, curious to see the setup. Hope it provides you with more efficiency and flow.

PICS PICS PICS PICS PICS!!!!

And are you ever going to fix the link in your sig?

Phillip put it there when people could put the [img] in your sig. I guess he took down the image.

PICS PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :bigtu:

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:gay: :gay: never seen that done befor:bigtu:

lol, sorry guys i have been a busy little bee....ill post pics asap.

Here are the pictures for you guys...sorry It took so long.;)

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Looks good!

#1 I'll pre-empt Brian and Scott :gay: : Is your crankcase breather still routed to air? :rolleyes:

#2 Are those ES100 tires that you are putting down all that power with? I'd think you'd need more rubber than that...:)

Wow Andy, that looks really good!

thatsalotta intercooler - do you have a/c?

Just as we speak I have ordered some Hankook RS-2's for my new wheels. I will post pics next week when I get the wheels on the car, I think you guys will like em;)

Naw, I dont. I also dont have PS so I have tons of room up there.

Oh, and spoolup is faster w/ this intercooler vs the starion. 10psi @ 4100 w/ starion; 12psi @ 3800 with this IC ( 3rd gear on both )

nice job:bigtu:

would you mind showing pics of the top end?

Ah thats sweet. Looks great too.

Do the tubes in the Starion have "turbulators" in them? I thought the tube and fin ICs had less pressure drop (because the tubes were "cleaner") but the trade off was less temp drop. I know the bars/tubes in my spearco core are packed with these "turbulators". Just wondering what the difference in spool up is attributed to.

What do you have coming out of the turbo? I see in the second pic two 90*'s to get the pipe turned up, but then how do you get it into the turbo? What turbo is it? Take off the MAF and snap another shot so I can see the rest of the piping on that side... PLEASE!!!

And that link in your signature is still broken.

And sweet pipes man, I hope mine turn out that well.

sweet that should get you there no problem. way to stick up for the kentucky way VTA is the only way. you going to the 502 dyno day tommorow?

that looks HOT lol

Im not sure about that, I know the Starion had a pressure drop of about 2psi accoring to my gauge. This is going from 10psi w/ the starion to no IC and getting 12psi. So I attribute the faster spool to less pressure drop and a more free flowing core. I was under the impression that tube/fin IC's had higher pressure drop but cooled better, and that the bar/plate had less pressure drop with slightly lower efficency.

I will snap a pic of that side tomorrow. Its basically a 2" 90* off the turbo and then I use a 2"-2.5 so that I can connect to the 2.5" IC pipe. I used a small 2" piece of pipe inbetween the 90* and the 2-2.5" coupler. Going around the radiator on the driver side you might want to shorten the radiator hose, my pipe kinda rubs on it, but it doesnt really hurt anything so I didnt worry about it. I will get a pic of that tomorrow.

Ill be at work, but Im going to schedule some dyno time pretty soon. Ill dyno on 16psi and see what im at, then later on install the standalone and go back to see how much more I can get:)

Andy, I think that's backwards.

Tube and fin usually flow more and "easier," but that's because the path is not as turbulent as it passes through the core. This is also why it's less efficient. The core will be a little lighter also.

Bar and plate (known as the "better" intercooler) is heaver, more efficient but also more restrictive as the air tumbles its way through. This is what gives the bar/plate better heat transfer. (Better numbers on the dyno also if you are so inclined)

The better I/C just depends on the application. For a Miata, you could argue the tube/fin because of the lighter weight, quicker spool, and adequate cooling because nobody runs horribly out of their turbo's efficiency range (except you freaks :bowdown: ) while a supra (or any "dyno" car) would be better off with the bar/plate.

sweet.

Bust out the bible, Andy's right.

Thank you;)

There's some good core pics on this page. Looks to me like the tubes can't carry the volume that the bar&plate can because of the thickness of the fins. And I guess there's a variance in performance among the same types depending on the internals of the core. My spearco looks like the top bar and plate in photo.

"As a general rule, with a level playing field (manufacturing quality, both fpi's, tube size, thickness, & a hundred other variables), bar & plate intercooler cores dissipate more BTU's then tube & fin cores - per square centimetre.

Please stop, go back & read that sentence again, as it is the most often asked question, but the most misquoted answer of all time. Please also note that it is very easy to change just one specification of a core to make it better than the other & it must be remembered right now that heat dissipation is only one parameter of overall intercooler performance.

If there is enough area & volume available, I mostly recommend a tube & fin core to do the job, as it will get the temperature down close to bar & plate, but at less pressure drop & less chance of leakage."

Quoted from http://www.are.com.au/techtalk/intecoolersMR.htm.

This source seems to agree with what I was saying:

-Bar and plate cools better because its more restrictive.
-Tube and fin is recommended because of the (Miata) specific requirements.
I'll say this as well. In my post, by saying "efficient" I meant "cools better." Which is NOT the same thing. Even playas fu:eek: k up..

I just did more damn intercooler research...... Found a crap load of contradicting information, which sucks!

What do you guys think about the first quote?

I think it also has to do that bar & plate runners are only 1/8" while tube/fin runners are usually 1/4"

NICE SET-UP!

What type of manifold is that? I want one!

That is a carbon steel log manifold made locally by AutoLab. Its also got a JetHot2000 coating. Thanks for the compliments....

Sam,

Ill get that pic for you, I have just been busy and now its raining outside so its a no-go at the moment.