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RicanmiataRacer 02-04-2007 09:26 PM

max boost that can be run On a 1.8 without an IC
 
how much boost can safely be run on a 1.8 motor without a Intercooler, Is the limit 7-8psi , how much should timing be retarded to say run it streetable like for say one to two weeks. I was thinking of doing it the greddy way.

jayc72 02-04-2007 09:35 PM

On the 1.6 greddy kit 6psi at 6* timing were recommended. Why take the chance and run it this way when you don't really have to. Get an I/C sorted out, you'll be happier.

Jay

adbradley 02-04-2007 11:00 PM

or get a WI kit

timhill78 02-04-2007 11:43 PM

Don't you hav an intercooler?

TurboMiatKid 02-04-2007 11:50 PM

Did you sell both of them? Just boost it untill it explodes.:skid: :eek4: :cry:

bripab007 02-04-2007 11:53 PM

I ran ~7psi intercooled for some time (a couple months). Ran 6° base before getting the Bipes, but that pinged a bit still. Ran 12° base and pulled to ~4-5° later with the Bipes.

Braineack 02-05-2007 12:04 AM


Originally Posted by RicanmiataRacer (Post 79263)
how much boost can safely be run on a 1.8 motor without a Intercooler, Is the limit 7-8psi , how much should timing be retarded to say run it streetable like for say one to two weeks. I was thinking of doing it the greddy way.


I wouldn't boost over 6psi without an intercooler. You're going to have to retard to timing like mad and make your EGTs skyrocket.

SamS 02-05-2007 12:14 AM

I ran 6psi for ~6 months. Base timing 14, bipes pulled to 6 degrees.

RicanmiataRacer 02-05-2007 08:38 PM

Ok then It's just A ?, I have a Intercooler ready to install(12x9x2.5) But I still dont know how the hell im going to get 2.5 inch ic piping to fit with the a/c and p/s pump in the way...I just dont see how, its really crowded

SamS 02-05-2007 08:44 PM

I used 2.5" pipes but removed my AC prior to installing the intercooler. The way my pipes are routed would not work with the AC compressor. Sorry I don't have any pics of my pipes on my pc and my car's 2 blocks away in the -15 degree weather.

RicanmiataRacer 02-05-2007 08:46 PM

Is it hard to remove the A/C and how much extra room would I have to play with?

can this be a one day project?

SamS 02-05-2007 08:48 PM

I didn't remove any of the parts in the dash, but what I did wasn't hard, maybe an hour or so. It's also a good way to remove weight before you add the weight of the I/C.

Edit: are you sure you'd rather sacrifice AC in florida than just use smaller pipes before the intercooler?

RicanmiataRacer 02-05-2007 08:50 PM

but since I have both p/s and a/c I haft to get a belt for ps only don't I?

SamS 02-05-2007 08:51 PM

Yeah you need to buy the shorter belt for miatas with p/s and without ac. Most parts stores will have it in stock.

Braineack 02-05-2007 10:59 PM

Buy Stripes piping kit for $225. It will take minimal effort to adapt it to your turbo. I'm talking minimal.

SamS 02-05-2007 11:12 PM

C'mon, don't you want to see him suffer in the FL humidity with no AC?:gay:

Kelly 02-06-2007 01:40 AM

15-20 psi with water injection easily.

akaryrye 02-06-2007 01:47 AM


Originally Posted by SamS (Post 79699)
Yeah you need to buy the shorter belt for miatas with p/s and without ac. Most parts stores will have it in stock.

I have one i bought from FM lol. Their price was competitive and i added it onto an order i made one time. Of course i then decided to not retain PS.

bripab007 02-06-2007 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by Wideopentuning (Post 79835)
15-20 psi with water injection easily.

Stock timing? Without an intercooler?

I'd like to see that:eek4:

magnamx-5 02-06-2007 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by Brian (Post 79879)
Stock timing? Without an intercooler?

I'd like to see that:eek4:

Hopefully you will. soon

RicanmiataRacer 02-06-2007 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by Wideopentuning (Post 79835)
15-20 psi with water injection easily.

hmmmm That sounds nice, hmmm well taxes came in, I'll haft to make it a point to find out how much IC piping would be and the labor from a local shop, hmmm the big ? .....do I really need a/c I never use it unless it's to defog the windows:hsugh:

Braineack 02-06-2007 06:29 PM

damnit, you're going to make my head pop one day.....buy stripe's piping kit and call it a day. At best all you'll have to do is cut the pipe a tad shorter into the intercooler and reposition the turbo outlet.

RicanmiataRacer 02-06-2007 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 80020)
damnit, you're going to make my head pop one day.....buy stripe's piping kit and call it a day. At best all you'll have to do is cut the pipe a tad shorter into the intercooler and reposition the turbo outlet.

Where is that thread with it for sale?

bripab007 02-06-2007 09:23 PM

Dude, there's a link right at the top of the page: MX-5Projects.com Greddy Intercooler Kit.

Markp 02-07-2007 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by RicanmiataRacer (Post 79263)
how much boost can safely be run on a 1.8 motor without a Intercooler, Is the limit 7-8psi , how much should timing be retarded to say run it streetable like for say one to two weeks. I was thinking of doing it the greddy way.

30 PSI.... On methanol.

F20turbo 02-07-2007 11:50 AM

45psi with makers mark or jim beam.

turbopezz 02-07-2007 01:43 PM

55psi on opium.

Arkmage 02-07-2007 02:07 PM

100 psi on LSD.

F20turbo 02-07-2007 02:13 PM

Lmfao

Braineack 02-07-2007 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by Arkmage (Post 80306)
100 psi on LSD.


wow! now i cant wait to put my LSD together.

RicanmiataRacer 02-07-2007 04:14 PM

braineack you said strips Ic kit is for sale right? where is his add?

Fritch 02-07-2007 04:15 PM

http://www.mx5projects.com/Greddy%20Intercooler.asp

RicanmiataRacer 02-07-2007 04:21 PM

I saw that ....the price($500) was enough to scare me away? and it said 1.6 ,i Didnt know he was talking about that?

Braineack 02-07-2007 04:30 PM

ah yes...i keep forgetting you have a 1.8. he is now just selling the piping kit for $225, but it would take a little extra work to make the throttle body end to line up.

RicanmiataRacer 02-07-2007 04:46 PM

what diameter Does he use in his pipe kits?

Braineack 02-07-2007 04:58 PM

2" hotside, then it transitions to 2.5" down below before the radiator into the intercooler. Then 2.5" the rest of the way to the TB.


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