Mega-Awesome-SuperBaller-DailyDriven-StreetMonster Build Thread
 

So after reading on this forum for months I have finally mustard up the courage to put my build plans out on the interwebz for all of you nice gentlemen to comment and bash me on. My goal is 300-350rwhp RELIABLY. Cough Cough. :noob:

1997 Miata

Bought 6-months ago from a nice man who is a banker and bought the car as a weekend cruiser. Car had 53,000 miles all original. Got the car for a steal so I couldn't pass it up. Since I have owned the car I have done a few modifications that were necessary for me to turbocharge the car.(That has been the plan since day one) I started with MiataRoadster's Short Shifter with a weighted shift knob from Blox Racing and some Ford Motorcraft Full Synthetic Transmission Fluid. Shifts improved DRASTICALLY and would recommend this to EVERY miata owner as a first mod. Then shortly after I moved onto the cooling issue Forced Induction Miatas have with Mishimotos's 3 core Aluminum Radiator, Slim Fan Shroud w/ Fans, Silicone Coolant/Heater Hoses, and 160* Thermostat. I swear in the humid and hot summer we had in Louisiana I have only heard the Fans kick on a handful of times. I am 100% satisfied as a customer and it has a Lifetime Warranty to boot. ;) I just purchased the Clutch Happy Meal clutch kit from Flyin' Miata with a stainless steel clutch line and transmission front seals/gaskets and rear main seal to replace while I am in there. That will be going in next weekend hopefully. As for the future build plan I'm looking at buying a separate long block to build on the side.

-Supertech Forged Pistons
-K1 Forged Rods
-ARP Hardware Throughout
-Blueprinted Oil Pump w/ Billet Gears
-ATI Super Damper
-Ported/Polished Head













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-Borg Warner EFR Turbo V-Band and EWG
-Custom Manifold (trying to be innovative and try something different)
-Megasquirt built by someone on the forums
-6 Speed Transmission
-3.9 Torsen Swap

So think I have a solid plan. It WILL happen, just a matter of when. Im trying to decide if I want to buy a 700rwhp cam/nitrous C6 Vette and then build the Miata or just buy a brand new CBR1000RR and have money to do the build at the same time.:drool:

I am looking for feedback and all criticism is helpful. No you all cannot scare me away, I do not get butthurt over things said over the internet.

Almost forgot pictures:

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The Vette is pretty tho...

http://i62.tinypic.com/2n0vwn8.jpg

http://i57.tinypic.com/2lbm4nq.jpg

What exactly new or different are you planning to do with the custom efr manifold? I mean most of the efrs are on custom manifold and we're pretty much covered all the good manifold designs.

I want to set something up like this if the room permits for it. Mainly for the reasons of space being an issue for big turbo, intercooler piping, and exhaust/wastegate being dumped out of carefully cut holes in the hood. This caught my attention because it is different and if I can fit a filter on the turbo it will be around the same area where air is directed through the hood to feed the stock airbox in an NA miata.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1412202375

Let the flame begin..... yes I have a garage and yes I have other means of transportation.

That would never work on a miata. In before cracked manifold.

Well that is a fwd manifold...

I was gonna guess evo or DSM but yeah.

I am fully aware that it is a FWD manifold. It is just an example, having the turbo sitting sideways would free up a lot of room that I'm looking for. This is not something that I want to do like everybody else. This is a "zero fucks" build. Im trying to find out if something in this orientation would work. Ill be the test subject. If it will fit in the engine bay and can be made to work I wanna try it.


And if it can't be done then ill just slap on a proven manifold design and call it a day.

Wait a minute...


What?

Haters gonna hate:
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1412205883

I want to route the exhaust out of the hood, and a design like this makes it much easier unless I use a manifold that pushes the turbo forward. Having the exhaust routed through the hood with the turbo sitting in the "normal" orientation leaves very little room for that.

Kinda want to see where this goes. Looks like you mean to give those guys with big-rig exhaust stacks on their pickups a run! Should be quite a show at night. Recommend you use a cheap steel hood for the experiment instead of cutting up that cherry OEM aluminum unit though. The steel will deal with the heat better too.

One comment, you've reduced your cooling capacity by using a 160 degree t'stat. If you're really going to make that much HP, you need all the cooling you can get. Suggest you restore the higher temp t'stat and do a reroute. The TSI's hurt cooling a bit too.

Style bars are dangerous.

Lots and lots of talk. Just like every n00b to grace this forum with dreams of 2000hp and being different

*yawn*

Any reason for a 160 thermo when the operating temps on our engines should be 180-195? Do you hate the engine and want to wear it out faster? Do you want to make the car need to warm up for 30 minutes? Do you want your water temp needle to dive to C as soon as you start driving it in the winter?

Have you purchased any of the serious items you've listed, or is that all just a dream at this point?

And lastly,

The absolute FASTEST way to get people to think you're a moron n00b is to say you want to do something for the sake of being DIFFERENT

I can't even remember how many people came here with those exact words and never amounted to anything.

I hope I'm wrong about you. Thread title did not deliver. Didn't even start.

Every single thing both posters above me said.

Tstat will be changed and coolant reroute will be done when built motor goes in. As for the build taking place it will without a doubt happen and it will meet my power goals. Now when the build will happen is directly associated with if i decide to buy that C6 and put the build off a little bit. None of the parts were purchased yet because I want feedback from you intelligent gents. The manifold was just a quick idea and ill probably just pick up a topmount or something. I was just throwing ideas out there. As for dissapointing everybody im not worried about because the amount of fun this car will be will not upset me.

I'm here for cat pictures. Where are the cat pictures.

There's nothing wrong with thinking outside the box, just so you know.

As long as "outside the box" is not your main goal, but a byproduct of striving for something amazing.

Cat pics soon. Im still looking into a few different options for a manifold, I just really like the orientation of that setup. Ill do some more poking around and ill update more when this clutch goes in.

That setup would never work on a miata...

Any normal manifold setup is already forward facing. If you want exhaust out the hood, flip the 90* up and cut a hole. Nothing new here.

Pshh, nothing new here. I thought of this months ago in the Lazarus thread.:brain:

I doubt this will go anywhere.

Probably right.













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we get a new fae fae :fael:

Ive read a lot of Fae's threads and in some respects he is an idol of mine. I hope that I can one day destroy so much shit and still not give two shits.

The best thing you can do is buy a artech manifold and call it a day. I had big baller custom stainless sidewinder manifold, would never do it again. Listen to these guys and save your self some headache.

Don't know if trolling, or....

haha, he MUSTARD up the courage. Which is different from the mustered I put on my turkey sandwhich.

Isn't the english language funny?

It's a free country and I enjoyed the entertainment, but . . .

do you have to destroy such a nice car? Why not experiment with a used up SM chassis instead?

There is a reason fae fae is foreveralone: many talk about being a 20k guinea pig, but none have the balls or the wallet to actually make it happen, cause when you think about it - having spent that much money, and still not making over 400, and still never having driven the car reliably for longer than a week, it's not all it's hyped up to be.

In no means do I plan to destroy a car, I said I admired him in some respects. This build will be top notch and just looking for a fun car I can jump in and not worring about blowing it up while still having fun. 10k is the most I want to put into it. I think for what I want to achieve I have some pretty conservitive expectations. Im not looking to build the "fastest" or anything like that.

I put 10k into my car and it blew up when I thought I was careful. Let me know your secret.

Do you plan to run 0w-20 unicorn tears or 15w-50 snake oil?

In that you both enjoy being gang-raped?

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You have no idea how far off you are. You think you can spend $10k and have a solid, reliable, no worries 300+ whp Miata?

If you're looking for a fun car you can jump in and not worry about blowing up for under $10k, then spend your 10k and make 240 whp.

Also: Just posting EFR in your dreamy parts list is not impressive. Posting pics of all said parts in a pile in your living room/garage/bed, that's impressive.

Disclaimer: All of my above statements are subject to correction through pics of your previous fantastic DIY fabwork :giggle:

I'm so confused right now.

Route the exhaust into the steering wheel.

#YOLO

first of all. there will never be another fae. i dont think fae can even reproduce his faeness of past.

your build is stating flashy items but missing more important ones. less hype more read. at least if youre not going to read start throwing ebay parts at it already. ebay pulley, cams, turbo kit, fmu. gogogo. if youre going to waste your time and money at least make it a good show.

Somewhere in the world, a Buddhist monk chuckles whenever the term yolo is used

Internals and hardware are $2k at most then all of the hard parts. Its feasable to build a solid motor for under $10k. If it took anymore than that people would do LSX swaps all day. I can have a heads/cam LS3 for about $8k without the subframes and mounts. Which i can have done cheap... My friend has put LSX motors in anything you can think of, he can weld custom subframes for a few cases of beer and dinner.

Sounds awesome. We don't have anyone here making over 300whp and we all use off the shelf turbo kits because we dont know how to fabricate.

Glad to have someone here to teach us things.

You said $10k into the car. Sure, you can build a MOTOR for $10k. But just the hardparts for the turbo setup (turbo, IC, manifold, exhaust, ECU) will be $5k. Still need radiator, clutch, transmission, rear diff, suspension, etc etc.

Wait....

Why am I trying to explain this to you?

unsubscribed

Nvm, not worth it

but bro

you can totally run a fwd sidewinder setup if you cut off the left front quarter of the car
I had hopes that you'd be legit.

I just lost all hope

Confirmed eggplant thread.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1412297029

Hahahaha when this car is built and I only have 10k in it ALL TOGETHER ill be sure to post back to these first few pages of the thread. I understand talk is cheap so ill slowly update as I make progress on the build. Cant wait to get this clutch in... Its slips pretty hard if I slam 2nd and 3rd gear. Tomorrow I have plans to fix some small oil leaks (CAS and Valve Cover Gasket).

When you drive your car 1800 miles, in <2 days without a single issue, then I'll believe you built a 300hp reliable car for 10k(with proof of receipts and a real dyno log).

Go take a look at my build thread if you want a cold, reality filled bitch slap to the face on what it would approximately cost to do that. I'm pretty easy going, and it is hard to annoy me, but you are talking a lot of fluff without real & accurate data to support it.

Do you even realize how fast 300hp is in a Miata? Build a 220 +/- daily driver, gain experience, gain knowledge by reading posts on here on builds that aren't "different", and realize you don't have a clue where to start.

Boy are you going to be mad when your turbo alone takes up 18% of your budget.


How much of that budget did your car take up?


You can HAVE a 300whp reliable Miata for $10k. You just can't build one for $10k.

You can buy my car and spend the extra leftover on a 6spd and a 2871 and be done with it if you'd like to save face.

Otherwise, this is the most eggplanty thread in a long time.

I want to see this lol ... :) That was a clean car.

It won't matter how reliable it is. @ 300whp the mouse trap will snap & that will be that.

I'm actually pretty surprised nobody mentioned it sooner.

If it ends up on blocks being worked on in the garage rather than driven it's probably a blessing anyway.

So over the weekend got some routine things I took care of. (Valve Cover Gasket and CAS O-Ring) CAS took all of 20 mins. and VCG took about 2-3 hours because I had to wait for the paint to dry. I figured might as well paint it while it is off, I'm pretty happy with how much better it looks over the dirty silver color it was before.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1412800629

Forget turbo, I have a feeling telephone poles in New Orleans are already getting scared. Do you stance bro?

Fools gold is a good color for the valve cover, you are already defining this build thread!

Do yourself a favor, don't make ginormous claims and then show us a spray painted valve cover.

CAS O-ring too though. Don't forget the CAS O-ring.

Dammmmnnnnnn serious work going on in here!

check out that custom breather hose tho

and the mishimoto radiator......because racec0r

There was just so much hope...

And then someone said " you can't spend your student loan on car parts".

To be honest, student loans paid for a good chunk of my original turbo build...

0% interest and i don't have to pay until i get a real job? Yes please.

In retrospect, probably not a good idea. But, :party: i made shit happen.

But did you purchase a zo6 AND build the baller'est turbo setup? I guess I'm just kinda jealous. I has small bank acount.

I just hope he doesn't trash that cherry NA too badly. I has the sad.

No worries Rick, he is following Fae Fae's footsteps, the car will be fine.