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mystery156 11-24-2012 10:24 AM

miata new guy with guy with timing problems
 
Hello i just traded rx7 fc for a 1990 miata.
t did come turbo with a greddy turbo kit, rising rate fpr, apexi safc (removed it as soon as i took car home) flying miata roll bar, and exhaust.. it a bad idle and wen i checked the igntion timing, it retard by like 14.... so i took everything apart, redid the timing belt to exact mark... rechecked the mark after running it for 5 minutes and there still good.... but wen i checked the ignition timing, it was still advance retarded 12°… so i advance the cas as much as i can and it went to about 4° atdc... and only way to get to 10° btdc is taking out the bolt that holds it in place, and moving it more to 10° btdc but itruns a rough... any suggestions on what mighg be the problem??
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Braineack 11-24-2012 10:33 AM

I suggest you figure out what the heck you are doing.

mystery156 11-24-2012 10:40 AM

All iam trying to do is to get the car running good enough to use as my daily driver

dustinb 11-24-2012 11:09 AM

First off, why did you take out the S-AFC? It was probably adding fuel. So now that is done, let's go over a few things:

1. When setting your timing, did you jumper the diagnostic box to set the car in timing mode?
2. It sounds like you are not reading your timing light correctly or are looking at the wrong marks. Regardless, with a greddy turbo kit in stock form, you should be at 6 degrees of timing.

turbofan 11-24-2012 12:25 PM

faelflora's new account?

hustler 11-24-2012 12:27 PM

You got a warning for being fucking retarded and typing like a child. Learn to type like an adult or find another forum. Well, preferably "find another forum".

mystery156 11-24-2012 03:11 PM

Dont tell me iam retarded you piece of sh$%... all iam looking for help from miata guys, but you have to be a huge dick... reason why its all mispelled is because iam doing it on my phone, and iam at work... but thanks for your hrlp...

dustinb 11-24-2012 03:14 PM


Originally Posted by mystery156 (Post 952839)
Dont tell me iam retarded you piece of sh$%... all iam looking for help from miata guys, but you have to be a huge dick... reason why its all mispelled is because iam doing it on my phone, and iam at work... but thanks for your hrlp...

Reposting what I wrote:
First off, why did you take out the S-AFC? It was probably adding fuel. So now that is done, let's go over a few things:

1. When setting your timing, did you jumper the diagnostic box to set the car in timing mode?
2. It sounds like you are not reading your timing light correctly or are looking at the wrong marks. Regardless, with a greddy turbo kit in stock form, you should be at 6 degrees of timing.

mystery156 11-24-2012 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by dustinb (Post 952841)
Reposting what I wrote:
First off, why did you take out the S-AFC? It was probably adding fuel. So now that is done, let's go over a few things:

1. When setting your timing, did you jumper the diagnostic box to set the car in timing mode?
2. It sounds like you are not reading your timing light correctly or are looking at the wrong marks. Regardless, with a greddy turbo kit in stock form, you should be at 6 degrees of timing.

I took off the S-AFC because it didnt have no tune and as soon as i took it off it ran better then before.
I did hook up the jumper cable and i bought the manual for it and saw wat marks to look at and to which ones to line up..

hustler 11-24-2012 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by mystery156 (Post 952839)
Dont tell me iam retarded you piece of sh$%... all iam looking for help from miata guys, but you have to be a huge dick... reason why its all mispelled is because iam doing it on my phone, and iam at work... but thanks for your hrlp...

I have no doubt you're looking for guys packing huge dicks.

In other news, I'm totally capable of capitalization and punctuation when posting from my phone. I suggest you learn to do it or I will taunt you a second time.

Pen2_the_penguin 11-24-2012 06:07 PM

Why the fuck did you remove the air/fuel controller? That was retard dumb move number 1.
Put that shit back and set your timing to stock. If you are daily driving the car, make it as simple as possible for your "new to the turbo world" experience.

edited: Just full time the thing and max the MBC.

mystery156 11-24-2012 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 952880)
I have no doubt you're looking for guys packing huge dicks.

In other news, I'm totally capable of capitalization and punctuation when posting from my phone. I suggest you learn to do it or I will taunt you a second time.

Must be looking in the wrong place then.. and i have better things to do then to be worrying about punctuation and spelling on a forum instead of helping each other out on problems with our cars

Pen2_the_penguin 11-24-2012 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by mystery156 (Post 952884)
Must be looking in the wrong place then.. and i have better things to do then to be worrying about punctuation and spelling on a forum instead of helping each other out on problems with our cars

It sounds like you want us to help figure out what you broke from the start; you are going to blow up that engine or warp the head if you keep fucking with the timing violently like that.

edited: no help for you.

hustler 11-24-2012 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by mystery156 (Post 952884)
Must be looking in the wrong place then.. and i have better things to do then to be worrying about punctuation and spelling on a forum instead of helping each other out on problems with our cars

Sorry, but on this forum we respect the language and communicate like adults. Please, write like an adult or I'll be forced to ban you. I get that you're destined to be a Wal Mart greeter, but please consider that most of us aren't and hold ourselves to a higher regard when communicating.

albumleaf 11-24-2012 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by mystery156 (Post 952884)
Must be looking in the wrong place then.. and i have better things to do then to be worrying about punctuation and spelling on a forum instead of helping each other out on problems with our cars

Its a matter of common courtesy, you're coming here asking for help and you can't be bothered to answer questions or take the time to speak English that we can understand? Just keep doing WOT pulls until the problem fixes itself.

Pen2_the_penguin 11-24-2012 06:14 PM

Also, how the fuck are you adjusting the timing, exactly? You do know there is a "diagnostic" mode, right?

hustler 11-24-2012 06:18 PM


Originally Posted by albumleaf (Post 952887)
its a matter of common courtesy, you're coming here asking for help and you can't be bothered to answer questions or take the time to speak english that we can understand? Just keep doing wot pulls until the problem fixes itself.

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Pen2_the_penguin 11-24-2012 06:22 PM

looks like morse code

Pen2_the_penguin 11-24-2012 06:25 PM

Dear mystery156,

If you do not reason with our requirements we will not help you. If someone was on your door step calling you a dickless asshole but wants to use your phone, do you let him? Probably not.

However, if you do not agree with our methods of communication and reliable running miatas of enjoyment, there is a site full of people that would happily take in your frantic rants of disregard and belligerent broken english over at www.clubroadster.net; and a cat name Hyper will surly show you the way.

hustler 11-24-2012 06:26 PM


Originally Posted by Pen2_the_penguin (Post 952896)
Dear mystery156,

If you do not reason with our requirements we will not help you. If someone was on your door step calling you a dickless asshole but wants to use your phone, do you let him? Probably not.

However, if you do not agree with our methods of communication and reliable running miatas of enjoyment, there is a site full of people that would happily take in your frantic rants of disregard and belligerent broken english over at www.clubroadster.net; and a cat name Hyper will surly show you the way.

BAUSE MOTHERFUCKER POST UP IN HURRRRRlc.


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