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budget racer 02-09-2008 06:12 PM

my DIY turbo heat shield
 
the turbo is boxed in (are there any drawbacks?)
i used very light gauge .025” aluminum…..doubled up in some areas for stiffness.

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/g...8/miata001.jpg

miataz 02-09-2008 06:14 PM

nice work:bigtu:

Braineack 02-09-2008 07:50 PM

nice, make me one and i wont ban you :bigtu:

urgaynknowit 02-12-2008 12:03 AM

make me one too lol, the greddy one i have is a piece of shit
i had to get it re welded

emmi 02-12-2008 02:40 AM

more pics!!!!!!

elesjuan 02-12-2008 05:45 AM


Originally Posted by urgaynknowit (Post 212828)
make me one too lol, the greddy one i have is a piece of shit
i had to get it re welded

I see a strange trend with Greddy branded things breaking?? :hustler:

levnubhin 02-12-2008 08:29 AM

nice work man. make them and sell them!
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budget racer 02-12-2008 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by emmi (Post 212875)
more pics!!!!!!

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/g...8/miata003.jpg

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/g...8/miata002.jpg

budget racer 02-12-2008 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by levnubhin (Post 212911)
nice work man. make them and sell them!

it's an idea i'm tossing around. super cheap to make......and sell.

m2cupcar 02-12-2008 09:09 AM

I like it. It's very similar to mine that's been on for a while. Does a good job of shielding the heat. I used some sheet metal from my old hvac unit.
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...t/engine01.jpg

budget racer 02-12-2008 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by m2cupcar (Post 212930)
I used some sheet metal from my old hvac unit.

yup.....i as in that aisle in lowes too before i found the sheet aluminum.

Marlond 02-12-2008 09:05 PM

nice, im going to build something like that

Leebo 02-15-2008 01:45 AM

Yes, definitely nice work. The main thing to shield is radiant heat to the brake cylinder and lines. I've tracked my turbo miata (at 15psi, T28) occasionally and never had heat problems but that was always a concern in the back of my head. Your design looks like fits the purpose well. Only worry would be the mounting. Is it also mounted below to the engine somewhere or only cantilevered out from the two valve cover bolts? Will it shake and move much from the mounting or do you have other mounting points to make it solid?

Zabac 02-15-2008 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by budget racer (Post 211872)
the turbo is boxed in (are there any drawbacks?)

only draw back i see is the AFM lol
looks good IMO

ZX-Tex 02-15-2008 09:52 AM

Very nice. I need to fabricate something similar soon.

You might want to consider making them out of steel since steel is a worse (much worse) heat conductor than aluminum. Like at least 3 times worse. That will provide additional shielding. Stainless steel would be nice for rust prevention though it will cost more of course. Also, regardless of the material, if you leave the inside shiny (like you have done), instead of painting it black for example, it will reflect more radiant heat.

TonyV 02-17-2008 01:11 AM

Het budget racer, any pics of the back of the shield?? Like where the heater hoses are looking forward??

I ask because I just started making mine today (using diamond plate) and was wondering how to go about boxing it in...Yours looks VERY clean man!! Good job!

Also curious about any other mounting points as someone else asked..
I'm gonna be using 3 of the valve cover bolts, but was thinking about something else on the bottom...

Corky Bell 02-18-2008 09:49 PM

Nice, neat work.

I think it is worth considering that the shield ought to be mounted on the chassis rather than the motor. Reason is vibs. As hard as it is to imagine, the primary (up and down) imbalance of the 1.8 four cylinder turning 6000 revs is about 20 G's. Of course it doesn't go very far, as 1/2 rev later, it wants to go the other direction. Regardless, it is a source of vibration that needs dealing with.

ZX-Tex 02-18-2008 10:22 PM

Corky how much movement from the motor have you seen, say, measured from a point on the valve cover to a point on the shock tower? Of course this will vary with torque output, motor mount condition, etc. Just wondering what is typical. I've considered removing the hood and measuring it myself.

cjernigan 02-18-2008 10:24 PM

Do it man, open the hood and turn the throttle body.
The 40% stiffer MazComp motor mounts should eliminate a decen't amount of the motor "torquing" motion.

ZX-Tex 02-18-2008 10:39 PM

I'm thinking that it would move more under load at peak torque compared to blipping the throttle? I was thinking I would remove the hood, rig up a measure with a pointer, and videotape it while driving up a hill. Crude, but cheap and effective :)

Not thread jacking here, just thinking about the what-ifs of a chassis mounted shield per Corky's suggestion.

samnavy 02-18-2008 10:42 PM

^You really need to test this while driving under WOT conditions and some hard shifting. Revving it on the driveway really doesn't tell anything.

You wouldn't have to remove the hood though... just rig up some sort of lever in the engine bay that the motor can push on. Move it over against the engine and go for a drive... when you get back, measure the distance it was pushed.

I'm guessing w/good motor mounts that it should probably rock over less than 2".

budget racer 02-19-2008 09:12 PM


Originally Posted by Leebo (Post 214635)
Only worry would be the mounting. Is it also mounted below to the engine somewhere or only cantilevered out from the two valve cover bolts? Will it shake and move much from the mounting or do you have other mounting points to make it solid?

well.....the aluminum that was used is very thin (.025") and more importantly it's very light weight and will hopefully not need any other mounting points than the two valve cover bolts. the box shape helps give the shape some stiffness and should keep it from any "warping". i'm not an engineer nor a fabricator so i can't tell you how well it will hold up.......but my common sense tells me that it's going to work just fine.

budget racer 02-19-2008 09:23 PM


Originally Posted by tvalenziano (Post 215532)
Het budget racer, any pics of the back of the shield?? Like where the heater hoses are looking forward??

I ask because I just started making mine today (using diamond plate) and was wondering how to go about boxing it in...Yours looks VERY clean man!! Good job!

sorry, i don't have any pics available and according to your post you're already done your shield. but.......that side comes down to seperate the heater lines and downpipe. just think 3 sided cube.

basically......i made the 3-sided box, reinforced it, and then just kept trimming away until it cleared the intake tube, turbo oil/water lines, and downpipe.

good luck.

TonyV 02-19-2008 09:31 PM


Originally Posted by budget racer (Post 216831)
sorry, i don't have any pics available and according to your post you're already done your shield. but.......that side comes down to seperate the heater lines and downpipe. just think 3 sided cube.

basically......i made the 3-sided box, reinforced it, and then just kept trimming away until it cleared the intake tube, turbo oil/water lines, and downpipe.

good luck.


Thanx...I did it, and also did the 3sided thing....but mine looks like assssss...Had to use a hacksaw...I know, I know...but hey it'll do till I just fork up for a blanket...


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