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railz 03-01-2009 12:11 AM

Are my lines connected right? TURBO LEAK?? L@@K
 
ok so this is how my lines are currently set up.

I have a OEM mitsubishi 16g TD05 turbo.

I decided to hook up the oil feed line directly to the block via the side oil port instead of tapping the oil pan.

and the oil return line is goes to the big side port on the passenger side of the motor block.

The water lines are connected just like how the picture in the DIY FAQ has pictured.

what im a little confused about is if i have the oil lines connect correctly?

here is a picture of EXACTLY how i have all the lines connect.

im running AFPR boost guage and waiting on the wideband.

timing advanced to 6*, 91octane.Flyin miata manual boost controller, DIY intercooler piping.

I started it up today and about 30senconds into idle it starts pouring out white smoke, and thank god i forgot to tighten the bolts from the turbo to the downpipe i noticed oil mist leaking out the cracks!

i turned the car off and removed the cold side of the turbo from the hot side and oil was everywhere inside!

im scared i might have connected the lines wrong but im pretty sure i didnt,

well heres the diagram.



so i started everything today
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magnamx-5 03-01-2009 12:17 AM

umm dude no those are both presurized feeds. :rofl: plz tap ur pan like i know u should have from the start or your turbo will be a smoke screen generator for ever. The oil pressure should come in on the top and drain at the bottom under gravity.

The_Pipefather 03-01-2009 12:21 AM

isnt that how the stock greddy kit is plumbed? if it works for them it should work for you.

magnamx-5 03-01-2009 12:24 AM

o yeah i forgot about the stock greddy's band and solution. dude trust me do the shit right and get it done so u wont ever have to worry about it agian.

Savington 03-01-2009 12:31 AM

No, they aren't hooked up correctly. You need to spend some quality time with the FAQ section.

neogenesis2004 03-01-2009 12:44 AM

The feed needs to be at the top and return at the bottom, otherwise gravity doesn't lend a hand and your shit leaks.

thesnowboarder 03-01-2009 01:24 AM

looks like the CHRA isnt clocked correctly. As everyone else stated, feed from top, return from bottom.

Btw, you owe me 4 bucks or an in and out burger from that diff i sold you a while back :p

railz 03-01-2009 03:59 AM

CHRA?

and i,ll get on about tapping the pan tomorrow, thanks all for showing the flaws to me!

drbogg 03-01-2009 04:19 AM


Originally Posted by thesnowboarder (Post 375688)
Btw, you owe me 4 bucks or an in and out burger from that diff i sold you a while back :p

Sorry but what in hell is a in and out burger????


Dr.

NA6C-Guy 03-01-2009 05:27 AM


Originally Posted by railz (Post 375710)
CHRA?

and i,ll get on about tapping the pan tomorrow, thanks all for showing the flaws to me!

The center bearing section. It needs to be rotated approx. 90* clockwise accourding to your "picture".

DontPassTheFence 03-01-2009 06:01 AM


Originally Posted by drbogg (Post 375711)
Sorry but what in hell is a in and out burger????


Dr.

In and Out is a californian burger chain, good burgers at a very california price.
They have stores in other states now thought, for example, here in AZ.

They also have awesome shakes.

NA6C-Guy 03-01-2009 06:16 AM

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/5/867...fd80c7.jpg?v=0

Whataburger is better!

Braineack 03-01-2009 12:18 PM

Issac Newton would be embarrassed.

Joe Perez 03-01-2009 12:40 PM

The routing is correct, although I hate using the oil return port on the cold-side of the block.

Everyone is correct about the turbo needing to be rotated 90 degrees. Oil goes in the top, comes out the bottom.

And fuck Whataburger. In-n-Out is where it's at. Number 2, animal, fries well, with a lemon-up. That is paradise.

railz 03-01-2009 02:57 PM

there is no way for my to turn the turbo.

its stuck in that position because of a groove slot. plus i had all my piping custom cut and welded to fit the current position of the turbo.

the return port isnt exactly horizontal like the picture shows, it does point to the ground at like a 45* angle

Savington 03-01-2009 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by railz (Post 375814)
there is no way for my to turn the turbo.

its stuck in that position because of a groove slot. plus i had all my piping custom cut and welded to fit the current position of the turbo.

the return port isnt exactly horizontal like the picture shows, it does point to the ground at like a 45* angle

It needs to point straight down. Having your IC piping cut up and welded with that orientation in mind doesn't magically change the laws of physics. Point the drain down before you start the engine again or you'll destroy the oil seals in the turbo.

magnamx-5 03-01-2009 03:18 PM

i did a write up awhile back on clocking the turbo man its not that fuckin hard.

naarleven 03-01-2009 03:19 PM


Originally Posted by railz (Post 375814)
there is no way for my to turn the turbo.

its stuck in that position because of a groove slot. plus i had all my piping custom cut and welded to fit the current position of the turbo.

the return port isnt exactly horizontal like the picture shows, it does point to the ground at like a 45* angle

doh! :slap:

magnamx-5 03-01-2009 03:24 PM

ur compressor shit etc wont move when u do it right
https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/t8851/
Newb

Braineack 03-01-2009 04:06 PM

the CHRA can move independently of the compressor and turbine...

Vashthestampede 03-01-2009 04:24 PM

https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/sea...earchid=719133

Look through those threads and read up on clocking the turbo. You'll understand what everyone is trying to tell you after you do some reading.

railz 03-01-2009 04:48 PM

ok, so i did how your DIY clocking thread said and its just how it should be, return line pointing down.

so now im with a bunch of custom piping that is useless to me now..which is perfectly fine cuz it is my fault of course for not doing research first..:bang:

Magnamx-5 do you have any pictures showing how you did your piping for the 16g turbo. im a little confused on how i should have mines done.

please and thank you!!

railz 03-01-2009 05:11 PM

Alright well i just realized i can still keep the piping duhh, just turned the cold side of the turbo to its original position while still keeping the return line facing down.

but before i put the turbo back i blew the one side of oil lines and plugged the other side and i hear air coming out of the end of the hot side turbine.

did i blow my oil seals??

magnamx-5 03-01-2009 05:12 PM

my intake piping? dude i run WI i just ran straight to the Throttle boddy and for the feed and return i ran teflon inner stainless outer lines from my local hydraulics shop. probly but i would try it all the same either it leaks or it doesnt the compressor is sealed via a oring and the hotside is compression sealed. Alil silicone can help alot.

railz 03-01-2009 06:27 PM

ok , im going to hook everything back up and see if it leaks at all..

Thanks so much for helping me:)

magnamx-5 03-01-2009 06:37 PM

anytime man im glad u learned some stuff :D

sixshooter 03-01-2009 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by railz (Post 375865)
ok , im going to hook everything back up and see if it leaks at all..

Thanks so much for helping me:)

<<<Put your location under your name like everybody else.
Somebody here might be local to you and be able to help.

thagr81 us 03-04-2009 11:09 AM

Ruh roh Shraggy...

patsmx5 03-04-2009 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by magnamx-5 (Post 375665)
umm dude no those are both presurized feeds. :rofl: plz tap ur pan like i know u should have from the start or your turbo will be a smoke screen generator for ever. The oil pressure should come in on the top and drain at the bottom under gravity.


Originally Posted by magnamx-5 (Post 375672)
o yeah i forgot about the stock greddy's band and solution. dude trust me do the shit right and get it done so u wont ever have to worry about it agian.


Originally Posted by railz (Post 375710)
CHRA?

and i,ll get on about tapping the pan tomorrow, thanks all for showing the flaws to me!


Originally Posted by railz (Post 375814)
there is no way for my to turn the turbo.

its stuck in that position because of a groove slot. plus i had all my piping custom cut and welded to fit the current position of the turbo.

the return port isnt exactly horizontal like the picture shows, it does point to the ground at like a 45* angle


Originally Posted by magnamx-5 (Post 375821)
i did a write up awhile back on clocking the turbo man its not that fuckin hard.


Originally Posted by magnamx-5 (Post 375826)
ur compressor shit etc wont move when u do it right
https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/t8851/
Newb


Originally Posted by railz (Post 375840)
ok, so i did how your DIY clocking thread said and its just how it should be, return line pointing down.

so now im with a bunch of custom piping that is useless to me now..which is perfectly fine cuz it is my fault of course for not doing research first..:bang:

Magnamx-5 do you have any pictures showing how you did your piping for the 16g turbo. im a little confused on how i should have mines done.

please and thank you!!


Originally Posted by railz (Post 375843)
Alright well i just realized i can still keep the piping duhh, just turned the cold side of the turbo to its original position while still keeping the return line facing down.

but before i put the turbo back i blew the one side of oil lines and plugged the other side and i hear air coming out of the end of the hot side turbine.

did i blow my oil seals??


Originally Posted by magnamx-5 (Post 375844)
my intake piping? dude i run WI i just ran straight to the Throttle boddy and for the feed and return i ran teflon inner stainless outer lines from my local hydraulics shop. probly but i would try it all the same either it leaks or it doesnt the compressor is sealed via a oring and the hotside is compression sealed. Alil silicone can help alot.


Originally Posted by railz (Post 375865)
ok , im going to hook everything back up and see if it leaks at all..

Thanks so much for helping me:)


Originally Posted by magnamx-5 (Post 375869)
anytime man im glad u learned some stuff :D

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:D:D:D

magnamx-5 03-05-2009 12:32 AM

ty pat


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