NA Turbo Parts on an NB
 

there is a local guy that is selling all the Turbo parts of him Miata. His is a 94-97 I have a 99.

Below is a list of what he has that I'm interested in.

T3/60-1 with a .63 a/r turbo.
1.8L Miata top mount turbo manifold.
Downpipe to go with Mani. and Turbo above
38mm Tial wastegate

Which of these things will fit/work on my car.

I've done a search on this site and m.net as well as read the DIY FAQ here and haven't found much info on cross compatibility.

Yeah they'll fit. The DP should have plenty of clearance though it might contact part of the chassis. That is alot easier fix than building whole new stuff though.
Go for it. What manifold does he have?

The mani is made by a local shop looks good and has a lifetime warranty. If i have issues with it all i have to do is drive my car up to the shop and they will fix/replace..

http://img476.imageshack.us/img476/486/dscn0123lu9.jpg

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/9485/dscn0110bh4.jpg

BUY IT.
If you don't give me his phone number.

yeah man that stuffs great get it now, great looking quality btw

hahah.. yeah i'm planning on it..

as of now i'm tryign to get

Manifold
Turbo
Downpipe
Wastegate
Injectors

i should be picking it up this weekend.

I'm hoping the MSPNP for the 99-00 will be out soon. if not i may be going Haltech or Hydra for managment.

I suggest you buy! maybe go with a different turbo. but that's high quality stuffs right there.

I'll more than likely start with that Turbo. My HP goals are pretty low i'm more interested in a quick spool..

looking for no more than 220 WHP

From what i'm hearing i'll need an intercooler too, so i might try to pick up the one he has for now. I need to get more info on it.

that turbo is good for 600HP & 28psi. It's exactly the opposite of what you're looking for in a turbo. As opposed to my straight up T3 (still considered larger to most miata guys) that's good for 300HP but still spools well below 5K. :gay:

ahh .. thanks, I obviously have a lot to learn still.. What would you suggest i use for a quick spool with that Manifold and Downpipe?

find out the A/R of the turbine.


edit: looks like you says it's a .63 A/R


i mean you could get away with bolting on a smaller compressor wheel/housing on it and keeping the 60-1 for a rainy day.

the Turbo is less than $500 with around 2000 miles on it.

would it be wise to purchase this and bolt on a smaller compressor side or just purchase something with Zero miles and get exactly what i'm looking for. Roughly how much would it run to get the different compressor side?

depends where you buy it. I picked up my super 60 wheel/housing/backplate for less than $100.


im just unsure how that turbo will react. i have a feeling it wont make good power till at least 4.5K.

Or you could ask cjernigan how much for making you one:bigtu: (check his car!)

I already offered. :)

nice deal! The guy who makes that should make some more :)

He will make all you want. If you would like his Contact info please just let me know.

Get it. I might want one.

Looks like I've confirm a deal with the guy that has these parts.

Here is what I'm getting.

T3/60-1 with a .63 a/r turbo.
1.8L Miata top mount turbo manifold.
Downpipe to go with Mani. and Turbo above
38mm Tial wastegate
drain line to the turbo and both oil fittings
k&n filter and intake elbow
cold side charge piping

If the Turbo ends up not being what i want I'll more than likely sell it. He is giving me a good enough of a price I should be able to get out of it pretty much what I'll have in it.


Now it's time to decide on Management in no certain order.


MS with a 94-94 CAS
Haltech
Hydra
AEM F/IC
PC-Pro

Address: 10305-1 Jefferson St Jeffersontown KY 40299
Phone: (502)266-6646
Email: sales@autolabonline.com
AIM: AutoLabLLC


The Owners name is Bill Roberts. Great guy loves to talk about Turbos.

Tell him Mike sent ya.

I actually called them yesterday.
$900 to reproduce that manifold.

HOLY CRAP !!!

No shit. GIVE ME YOUR MANIFOLD

Give.. hmm. NO ! :rofl:

This is making want to go get the parts tonight so he won't have time to change his mind.. hahaha..

If i knew the guy i would have gone and picked them up last night. You're lucky.

The 99 intake manifold mounts the TB maybe an inch higher than on the earlier years. I was able to move my setup over from the old 97 engine to the new built + 99 top end engine.

Thanks for the heads up..

I picked up a bunch of the parts today.. here are a few more pics..

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550 injectors.. Not real sure what these injectors are or if i can even use them.


http://blindmind.smugmug.com/photos/219791891-M.jpg


Treadstone TR8

http://www.treadstoneperformance.com...9&phot_key=582

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looks like the Injectors are out of a 1989-91 RX-7

Part Number 195500-2020 Saturated 550cc

Now i need to find out of the will fit my stock injectors plugs..

Those injectors will work, they're round connectors. They'll PNP into your stock harness. I use the same injectors.
That turbo is huge. The mani looks great. So does the fuel rail. Did you not get the downpipe?

I ended up getting the downpipe.. Not sure how much of it I’m going to be able to use. I want to vent the wastegate in to the DP and maybe tap the EGR in there as well.

I picked up a BOV but the more I’m researching the more I’m thinking about a recalculating bypass set up..



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Why would you want a recirculated setup? The AEM runs off MAP, pretty sure it will allow you to remove the MAF and run a VTA BOV that way.
With megasquirt you can run vta because it is also map. I use a tial bov and it works well enough, no issues with it. Once you hear it, you'll not want anything else. They sound like a "whip" snapping. My g/f refers to it as sounding like a dragon. No loud Psew psew noises.

This may start folks hating me but im not a fan of the sound a VTA setup BOV makes. I'm old and quiet is a good thing. I'm still researching I may do just what you are saying.

That turbo is going to be so loud, you have no idea. The roar of your engine will far surpass the noise that comes from your BOV when you lift.

talked to the PO of the set up and he was seeing 10 PSI at 4000 RPM.

Seems a bit optimistic to me, he was running it on a stock 95 long block

I think it's pretty safe to say this on just about everything to do with turbo systems. I've been researching MP62 SC kits for the last 18 months. This kind of fell in my lap.

Never owned a turbo in my life..

Get ready for the greatness, seriously, driving a non-boosted car sucks in comparison now. I want to turbo my v6 ranger just because it's soo damn slow compared to the miata.

If i end up with a turbo on my '05 Frontier it's all your fault.. :bigtu:

Hell frontiers came supercharged, find a old charger and bolt it on.

in '05 they switched from the 3.3L to the 4.0L V6.. I don't think they did an OEM charger for the 4.0L although there are a few aftermarket. I believe the heads share the same bolt pattern on the exhaust as the 350Z/G35.. Unfortunately the DANA 22 is a special design and no one makes an LSD for it to my knowledge. Don't think i haven't thought about it.


but i don't really need 400 hp to pull my 1200 lbs boat.. the stock 260 or whatever it is does the trick fine.. hahah.. Maybe once i get the trubo on the Miata i'll just use it to pull my boat.. :rofl:

Looks like my Tial BOV is missing part of the clamp.

If you look in this pic..
http://blindmind.smugmug.com/photos/219791891-M.jpg


you can see the clamp and the BOV. I'm guessing the the Hex head screw is the one for the clamp but i don't see the pieces that the screw threads in to.

Any ideas on sourcing those pieces or a new clamp?

Email Tial or meaure the vband clamp size and get one from http://store.racing-solutions.org/

What you're looking for are the pins that go in the clamp, was is a guide, the other is threaded.

According to the DIY FAQ:

89-91 RX-7 TURBO 550cc - purple top #195500-2020

You have the 460cc Red Tops.

He gave the part number of 195500-2020 those are the purple topped 550s.

The part number on the side of the Injector is 195500-2020.. but they are red top .. odd.

considering it's a T3 turbine, that sounds about right.

I e-mailed Tial. I think it's 2.5" but i'll measure when i get home.

We might as well consider ourselves color blind. That is purple in the denso injector world. Even though you would normally call it red.

Denso is el blindo .. ;)

when you compare the two you can see the difference....

http://www.witchhunter.com/flowdatapix/d1955002010.jpghttp://www.witchhunter.com/flowdatapix/d1955002020.jpg

I just ordered my new turbo..

GT28RS with a T3 Flange and Ext Gate. :skid: .. Hopefully i'll be boosting in 3 weeks. :x:

Still need to find Engine Management. It's a hard choice. Lots of options out there.

good choice. .63 A/R turbine i suspect?

I believe the the GT28RS has a .64 A/R ..

Well it looks like the Manifold won't fit with my GT2860RS. The exhaust side of the turbo is 1/2" to 1" away from my Brake Booster. With normall Engine movment it would hit the brake booster and it's so close i'm sure it would melt it.

Not good not good at all.. i pretty much based my whole kit around this Mani only to find out it's a no go.

Hopefully BEGI can come through with a Cast Mani..


I don't have any pics and i'm to pissed right now to get it all back on to take any.

I don't know if this is an NA to NB issue or if changing the Turbo is the problem.. Maybe a little of both.

This is the best picture I can find right now to represent what I'm trying to show you, but look for a turbo with a center inlet on the turbine housing, instead of the offset like most turbos..

http://www.mjmturbos.com/TurboBackground.jpg

That might get you far enough away from the booster? maybe?

I think you are talking about using a Journal Bearing Turbo ..

I was thinking about that and i don't think that's what i want to do ..

looks like one of my injectors may be fried..

GRrr...

if anyone has some 2020's they want to sell let me know..