Zaphod

Hi,

inspired by the "Don't need no stinkin gauges" thread I thought I try my long planned gauge cluster swap. I planned this swap for a long time because I was annoyed of all the missing values in the OEM cluster and all the gauges in my air-outlets.

In this thread you will be able to watch if my attempt is going to be win or fail...

These are just my first thoughts and preparations:

I got a spare 99-00 gauge cluster from a friends killed 10AE and dismantled it completely.

*insert pic here*

From a member of the German MX-5 board I got a DWG (CAD) file for the OEM gauge cluster including the backside.

Now the thread about the Maxigauges gave my idea a final push to start my own gauge cluster.

I ordered the Large-LCD version of the Maxigauge from Hakan.



The gauge will show the following values:

Oil Pressure (oilP)
Oil Temp (oilT)
Coolant temp (Wts)
Rpm (Rpm)
Exhaust Temp (Egt)
Air-fuel wideband (Afr) zeitronix zt2
Boost-Vacuum (Map)
Volts (Batt)

and these alarms:

Mininum Oil pressure: red led and sound
Max Wts: red led and sound
Rpm: shiftlight blue led and sound
Max Egt: red led and sound
Lean afr alarm: red led and sound

Hakan is a great guy to deal with, he replies on mails very fast and is very helpful with every detail of the gauge. (You can get a lot of different custom settings, gauges etc.) I want to use OEM VDO sensors for oil pressure, oil temp and water temp - no problem!

- I made 2 designs on how my gauge cluster could look like.

Design Nr. 1 - I would have to swap the fuel level gauge to the right side and
the ODO LED



Nr. 2 - I could leave the fuel level gauge and maybe the ODO LED (but I don't know if it will fit together with the maxigauge)



QUESTION:
I got 2 "spare" holes in design two - upper and right little gauge pod. What other gauges would you put in there?


Lets go on:

- I scanned the OEM gauge circuit



and I made a little drawing on what goes where:



I ordered the VDO sensors and an adapter plate for the oil-temp sensor for the oil filter. When everything is arrived I will go on and keep you informed!

Greetings from Germany

miatauser884

iTrader: (11)

Wow, that would be really nice. Is the display backlit?

devin mac

iTrader: (2)

Very nice, sir. I'm sure a lot of us, including myself, have been thinking about this while looking at that thread.

Looking forward to seeing it progress.

Zaphod

@djp0623 - yes it's backlit.

More parts rolling in:

Oil filter adapter plate, VDO oil and water temp sensors.



I will have to do a double adapter plate - one for the sensors, one (with thermostat - already installed for my oil cooler). But I have found this already done and working.

Seefo

iTrader: (5)

I think you are missing a tachometer. It would seem to me you should replace the speedo with a tach and just use the digital speed readout.

Good stuff though, I like this idea a lot!

rharris19

iTrader: (41)

It's the a digital one in the screen.

EDIT: Nevermind, I get what you are saying in that he is missing a mechanical gauge and not that he is missing a gauge all together.

Ryan_G

iTrader: (8)

This thread will be epic and should be a sticky if it is successful. I saw your drawing in the original thread and loved it. I have been thinking about putting one of these together. My vote would be for design #1. It looks much cleaner and not overly busy.

elesjuan

iTrader: (11)

I agree, would've kept the mechanical tach personally. Speedo changes much slower rate than a tach, just personal pref.

This is AWESOME. Sub.

theracer

good

Seefo

iTrader: (5)

All I am trying to say is its better to keep the tach gauge over the speedo.

In this case he can simply reverse the two.

We could get into the ergonomics of a tach gauge vs. tach readout, but that stuff is probably boring. I will simply say its easier to get relevant information from a tach gauge than a tach digital readout.

Zaphod

I would also love to keep the mech. tach. Problem is - to keep the German TÜV happy I have to keep a OEM speedo. I will see with which I will be going once my Maxigauge arrived ( it's already on the way from Turkey)

skidude

iTrader: (3)

I will be excited to see how this progresses. It is unfortunate that you cannot keep the stock tach and just use the digital speedo, but maybe if you used the second design you could put a very small tach in one of the two other locations? An actual needle for tach is very nice to have, though to be honest I actually don't look at it too often.

Zaphod

I might consider a small speedo.

More parts are coming in - LEDs for all the backlighting of the cluster.

Have to wait for the Maxigauge to arrive - was shipped on Monday, but might take another week. (Shipping from Turkey to Germany seems to take awfully long)

Zaphod

O.K. your hints about the tach got me thinking:

I think I am going to build myself a "little rpm gauge" where the OEM water temp gauge was sitting - looks like this when finished. (I will be going with the small tach, big speedo to keep the TÜV happy here - I also have a design for a small speedo though...



As I don't have the Maxigauge yet I cannot so anymore work.

Seefo

iTrader: (5)

I like small speedos...at the beach!

elesjuan

iTrader: (11)

I just got a great idea. Not sure how they check it, but leave the "Speedometer" dial face but swap it mechanically for the tach? Obviously if they function checked stuff that wouldn't work... Just a thought.

BarbyCar

iTrader: (1)

Hmmm,

How about a 4P2T switch/relay? That way you could select between Speedo and tach function. Just have to make sure the sin+/- and cos +/- are right.

skidude

iTrader: (3)

That would be really cool. Kind of like how my grandmother's buick has a button to switch from MPH to KPH, but less buick-y.

Zaphod

After a whooping 46 days (!) from sending the package (thanks Hakan) to receiving it - my Maxigauges finally arrived. (I guess I could have sent someone to walk to Turkey and get the package for me - thanks Deutsche Post - your are really fast !)

This is what I got:





Now, when I find the time I am going to get my install done!

ThunderFox

Looking great so far! Looking forward to see how you build the encasing, since I'm doing a homemade LCD gauge myself, and am curious about this now!