Normal vs. Divided Turbine Housings Discussion
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There has been some discussion about the possible benefits of using divided turbine housings lately and I wanted to dedicate a thread to the topic for the ease of future searching. I have been reading about them lately and wanted to share a bit.
Please add your own sources of information on the subject as you encounter them. Attachment 189857 I knew the divided housings provided better spool, but didn't realize there was a penalty on the top end due to additional drag from increased surface area. I wonder if our little engines could push enough exhaust volume for the high end restriction to even be a problem? Attachment 189858 I also didn't realize the two inlets were introduced 180* out from each other inside the housing. Attachment 189859 This says that it helps to reduce cylinder to cylinder pulse interference. I was thinking that this would be more important on an engine that had six or more cylinders than one with just four, but that at higher RPMs it would easily be conceivable that the pulses from one and four would be heading straight toward each other in a log type manifold and meet somewhere in the middle. Obviously this would be less of a problem when using a tubular merging-type collector, and no one would use a log with a divided turbine housing. Thoughts? Additions? |
I'm here for the turbulent, high-speed, twin entry.
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If there's a penalty with high RPM use, but a significant gain in low RPM use, one could simply overcome the high RPM use penalty with a slightly larger turbocharger?
This might make the boost threshold/low RPM spool equal (no advantage for either) and at high rpm, the twin scroll would produce more power? |
in for info even though i have a log manifold. |
i highly doubt twinscrolls are going to outperform a single scroll turbo with tial v-band housing and the same chra and compressor, however ima stick around and learn something new.
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Originally Posted by 1slowna
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i highly doubt twinscrolls are going to outperform a single scroll turbo with tial v-band housing and the same chra and compressor, however ima stick around and learn something new.
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I like these things. Not enough to go buy one, but someday maybe.
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Penis.
I am buying a motherfucking new turbo with a .888 undivided housing. I am also going to buy a .91 divided housing. I will log them bitches so hard that that that I will have spool statistics and other things. The divided housing will be for a quick spool valve, assuming I can find one for something less that a ridiculous price. |
Originally Posted by Faeflora
(Post 712086)
Penis.
I am buying a motherfucking new turbo with a .888 undivided housing. I am also going to buy a .91 divided housing. I will log them bitches so hard that that that I will have spool statistics and other things. The divided housing will be for a quick spool valve, assuming I can find one for something less that a ridiculous price. |
Originally Posted by fooger03
(Post 712093)
I bet you won't.
And bytw I am only talkign about sound performance QSVs. I already found one for $200 but it had already been sold. sniff |
Originally Posted by Faeflora
(Post 712098)
Nyah I bet I will
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I am working on an interesting project with turbo by Garrett with a twin scroll set up. Should be pretty awesome. I will post when it is finished. Looking to be around 450rwhp 400ftlbs..
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Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 712034)
I'm here for the turbulent, high-speed, twin entry.
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I'm getting my T4 twin scroll manifold built now, I will keep everyone updated.
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Originally Posted by 1slowna
(Post 712055)
i highly doubt twinscrolls are going to outperform a single scroll turbo with tial v-band housing and the same chra and compressor, however ima stick around and learn something new.
Originally Posted by fooger03
(Post 712093)
I bet you won't.
I did. The turbo is in the car right now. Sitting in the passenger's seat. Quick spool valve is on the way. It will spank the fuck out of lag. .45 A/R for the spool win.
Originally Posted by TURNS101
(Post 720756)
I am working on an interesting project with turbo by Garrett with a twin scroll set up. Should be pretty awesome. I will post when it is finished. Looking to be around 450rwhp 400ftlbs..
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Originally Posted by fooger03
(Post 712036)
If there's a penalty with high RPM use, but a significant gain in low RPM use, one could simply overcome the high RPM use penalty with a slightly larger turbocharger?
This might make the boost threshold/low RPM spool equal (no advantage for either) and at high rpm, the twin scroll would produce more power? The first example in the OP assumes that one isn't simply using a larger twin scroll than the single scroll they would otherwise use, and assumes that the reader gives a flying shit about static, industrial applications. :giggle: |
I guess il go fuck myself since i have seen, in person more cars making bigger numbers with single scroll turbos? i said i was here to learn somehting new, stop being such a fucking dickhead.
for the record i hope it works fantastic, i would love to see miata with a nice twinscroll setup making good power. There is no reason i cannot b optimistic though. |
Originally Posted by 1slowna
(Post 720897)
i have seen, in person more cars with single scroll turbos.
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Originally Posted by 1slowna
(Post 720897)
I guess il go fuck myself since i have seen, in person more cars making bigger numbers with single scroll turbos? i said i was here to learn somehting new, stop being such a fucking dickhead.
for the record i hope it works fantastic, i would love to see miata with a nice twinscroll setup making good power. There is no reason i cannot b optimistic though. Causation does not necessarily equal correlation. |
Originally Posted by Faeflora
(Post 720946)
Causation does not necessarily equal correlation.
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