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zoom zoom 06-01-2012 03:41 AM

oil return
 
I drilled and tapped my pan for 3/8" NPT, but what do you guys use to seal up the threads? Tig welding is out of the question, so i dont know if i should use loctite or some sealant or what?

soviet 06-01-2012 03:46 AM

teflon tape.

NPT thread is technically self-sealing. however, it should always be used with teflon tape as it acts both as a sealant and lubricant and helps the threads seal better.

Fireindc 06-01-2012 02:47 PM

Many here including myself have JBwelded the thing on. No leaks thus far..

Braineack 06-01-2012 03:13 PM

JB weld on the threads. teflon tape is a horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible idea

Fireindc 06-01-2012 03:34 PM

+1 Teflon tape can come loose in your oil pan and clog oil pickups, oil ports, etc.

Joe Perez 06-01-2012 03:53 PM

Keep teflon tape away from your engine in general. The probability of it causing catastrophic damage (eg, by entering a lifter) is pretty low, but there's no sense tempting fate. Even overlooking that fact, it's not the best product available for this purpose.

A bit of JB-weld dressed into the threads just before you screw the fitting into the pan seems to work wonders. Not only does it seal well and resist heat and oil once cured, but it's pretty much the ultimate threadlocker.

gslender 06-01-2012 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 884066)
JB weld on the threads. teflon tape is a horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible idea

Just so I'm sure, are you saying it is horrible then?

rleete 06-01-2012 07:25 PM

He's just repeating the words his parents called him.

soviet 06-01-2012 11:14 PM

Well fuсk you guys. Teflon tape is where it's at. If you use it right, pieces of it will not come off. If you're paranoid feel free to use teflon paste.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_pipe_thread

This means that NPT fittings should be burr free and lubricated using a lubricating material like lubricating paste or tape.

gslender 06-01-2012 11:31 PM


Originally Posted by soviet (Post 884244)
Well fuсk you guys. Teflon tape is where it's at. If you use it right, pieces of it will not come off. If you're paranoid feel free to use teflon paste.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_pipe_thread

The temperature limit of Teflon is usually around 200 deg C so I guess there is thermal concerns that might be valid too.

I'm not sure about JB Weld unless you never intend removing it... so I wouldn't unilaterally replace Teflon paste/tape with JB Weld either.

Fireindc 06-02-2012 02:42 AM


Originally Posted by gslender (Post 884246)
The temperature limit of Teflon is usually around 200 deg C so I guess there is thermal concerns that might be valid too.

I'm not sure about JB Weld unless you never intend removing it... so I wouldn't unilaterally replace Teflon paste/tape with JB Weld either.

If you remove it, then you have a hole in your oil pan. Why would you ever remove it? If you take off the turbo just cap it off with a rubber nipple.

Oscar 06-02-2012 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by soviet (Post 884244)
Well fuсk you guys. Teflon tape is where it's at. If you use it right, pieces of it will not come off. If you're paranoid feel free to use teflon paste.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_pipe_thread

By all means, teflon tape the ---- out of the oil feed for your EFR. Post results:party:

codrus 06-02-2012 12:50 PM


Originally Posted by gslender (Post 884246)
I'm not sure about JB Weld unless you never intend removing it... so I wouldn't unilaterally replace Teflon paste/tape with JB Weld either.

The JB weld isn't that strong. Most hose barbs have a hex flange at the bottom -- put a deep well socket on it and a long ratchet and it comes right off.

--Ian

Braineack 06-02-2012 12:53 PM

yeah but it holds well if you dont touch it.

Joe Perez 06-02-2012 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by soviet (Post 884244)

That article assumes that the male piece is being received by a female piece which is match-tapered and provides full thread engagement.

We're screwing it into a very thin oil pan with maybe 1.5 threads' worth of engagement depth.

This is like comparing a knowledgeable, rational, articulate person to Pusha.

Orion ZyGarian 06-05-2012 09:48 PM

Teflon is a bad idea for automotive applications. It was never really meant for it. Permatex has what you need: http://www.permatex.com/products/Aut...t_Compound.htm
There's a few options, but this is really what you want. It is reusable too, in that you can back it out a bit, screw it back in, and it will keep the seal. Not something you can really do with tape

kruze 06-06-2012 12:12 PM

jbweld i have used with success.

just dont touch it when you initially install it, let it cure for the day.

Fireindc 06-06-2012 12:25 PM

JB weld just works. Use it!

kaboshe 06-06-2012 12:44 PM

jbweld x2, did the same on all of my setup

MartinezA92 06-06-2012 01:23 PM

How has nobody mentioned RTV? I used RTV over a year ago and I haven't seen a drop of oil come from that fitting.


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