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drftroadster 04-13-2010 02:07 AM

Ok so im taking the plunge..
 
Alright well a friend of mine is building his DSM up and i have free reign over parts off the car. Turbo injectors.. whatever i need i can get.. my question is how well is the small 16g going to be on a 1.6? i have a friend who is pretty much a guru with turbo shit, his 2.3 beater mustang makes over 300 and its carbed.. he tells me itll be fine, but i wanted to know if anyone here has a DIY kit with dsm shit on it and how soon you hit boost... its going to be built into a drift car

WonTon 04-13-2010 02:16 AM

^^^^^This............this is not an intro thread


maybe you should make an intro thread, cause my turbo senses are starting to tingle for the ass raping to be thrusted upon you!

samnavy 04-13-2010 03:46 AM

Where to begin... where to begin...

So, you want to base your entire build around one part... one part that you can get anywhere for $100? Sounds like a shit idea.

Here's what you need to do.
#1: Set a budget.
#2: Set a power goal.
#3: Assess you capabilities as far as assembly, fabrication, etc...
#4: Do homework.
If you don't do it in that order, you end up chasing your tail, buying parts you learn you can't use, buying parts you end up settling for, and never being satisfied with your setup.

Now... when you say "drift car", do you mean something that is competitive and legal in a sanctioned series or are you just talking about offramps? I'll assume it's the latter because if it was the former, you wouldn't be asking about raping a DSM for parts.

So, what kind of drifting are we talking about... wide rubber on a big track... carrying your line in 4th at 90mph and still needing power in reserve or just some donuts in a wet parking lot?

Tell us more about exactly what you want this Miata to look like and be able to do when you're done with your build. Be specific, be detailed, be honest about your budget and abilties. We can help answer all your questions and make sure you head down the right path. You can imagine we get a lot of douchebag drifto wannabes in here that buy a $500 Miata, cut holes in the airbox, turn their hats around backwards, and call themselves DK. If you give off that impression, the locals will crush you. Be legit and you'll get legit advice.

ArtieParty 04-13-2010 08:00 AM

I smell troll...

thirdgen 04-13-2010 09:34 AM

A miata drift car...is the car going to be painted to look like a giant $3 bill?

magnamx-5 04-13-2010 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by drftroadster (Post 555305)
Alright well a friend of mine is building his DSM up and i have free reign over parts off the car. Turbo injectors.. whatever i need i can get.. my question is how well is the small 16g going to be on a 1.6? i have a friend who is pretty much a guru with turbo shit, his 2.3 beater mustang makes over 300 and its carbed.. he tells me itll be fine, but i wanted to know if anyone here has a DIY kit with dsm shit on it and how soon you hit boost... its going to be built into a drift car

16g works just fine on a 1.6 megan racing fleabay manis are the cheapest option. This is not for the faint of heart you will have to make alot of shit to have it all work. But overall i like mine. i make boost by 1800 rpm and have 15 psi by 4300.

drftroadster 04-13-2010 11:31 AM

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i have drifted before, in an s14.. im going to do events that i can make it to with work... the tracks used to see 65+mph... as for the having to make alot of shit that doesnt bother me,this is my 2nd miata build, the first was N/A i sold off most of its parts.. i still have the cage. coilover etc.. power goals, im hoping to make 200ish. maybe 250.. the fabrication part isnt going to be too hard, i have accest to a machine shop. tig or mig welders. anything i really need... budget id like to stay under 1k..
This is how the car sits...
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drftroadster 04-13-2010 12:14 PM

the horse power numbers are just for starters untill i get used to the car. i dont wanna go apeshit crazy at first with it and it not still be streetable this is still my dd afterall

Bond 04-13-2010 12:21 PM

cr.net

GTFO

FRT_Fun 04-13-2010 12:31 PM

http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_i...0489_large.jpg

:drama:

drftroadster 04-13-2010 12:56 PM

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yea were posers alright..heres some pictures of our little drift heaven.. privatly owned track we have access too
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turotufas 04-13-2010 01:06 PM

Must be this high to post here.

http://www.quest-online.com/NewFiles.../CondiRice.jpg

Try, http://clubroadster.net/vb_forum/home.php

musanovic 04-13-2010 01:52 PM

He told us.... we got to get a track as well now for the Forum.



[QUOTE=drftroadster;555591]yea were posers alright..heres some pictures of our little drift heaven.. privatly owned track we have access too

drftroadster 04-13-2010 01:56 PM

Cr.net is full of dumbasses, i came here to ask questions instead i find douche bags.. fine by me.. sorry i dont want to spend the astronomical price FM wants, and i like to do things myself.. you guys already get alot of shit talked on you, perhaps you should think about helping some one rather then the hey lets act like total ******s to this guy cos my e-peen is soo big.

musanovic 04-13-2010 01:57 PM

please help yourself by not posting dumb remarks any more.
thanks.


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Originally Posted by drftroadster (Post 555626)
Cr.net is full of dumbasses, i came here to ask questions instead i find douche bags.. fine by me.. sorry i dont want to spend the astronomical price FM wants, and i like to do things myself.. you guys already get alot of shit talked on you, perhaps you should think about helping some one rather then the hey lets act like total ******s to this guy cos my e-peen is soo big.


KPLAFIN 04-13-2010 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drftroadster (Post 555626)
Cr.net is full of dumbasses, i came here to ask questions instead i find douche bags.. fine by me.. sorry i dont want to spend the astronomical price FM wants, and i like to do things myself.. you guys already get alot of shit talked on you, perhaps you should think about helping some one rather then the hey lets act like total ******s to this guy cos my e-peen is soo big.

There was a time when you couldn't even join this site with a name containing drift, drft, etc... not because everyone that drifts is a douchebag, we have some pretty bad ass members who are all about drifting, you however, seem to fall under the douchebag category. Having a "private track" :ne: skill or even lack of douchebaggery. Now GTFO with your buttsecksing bullshit.

gospeed81 04-13-2010 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by drftroadster (Post 555305)
Alright well a friend of mine is building his DSM up and i have free reign over parts off the car. Turbo injectors.. whatever i need i can get.. my question is how well is the small 16g going to be on a 1.6? i have a friend who is pretty much a guru with turbo shit, his 2.3 beater mustang makes over 300 and its carbed.. he tells me itll be fine, but i wanted to know if anyone here has a DIY kit with dsm shit on it and how soon you hit boost... its going to be built into a drift car

When you're picking over his DSM see if he's got any shift keys, or commas.



The DSM T25s have funky flanges, and are a little small for our cars. Unless it's an upgrade turbo, it won't have a powerband conducive to drifting. I drive a car with a little IHI, and while it's fun around town, it definitely lacks the balls up top you'd need to keep the rear tires roasting while sliding at any kind of decent speed.

There are plenty of DIY routes out there...check out some of the build threads. But unless you can weld you're pretty well stuck paying someone for used FM or BEGi hotside parts, or contacting one of the guys on the forum that does fab work (TurboTim, ARTech, wayne curr).

Once you have a manifold and downpipe, and a matching turbo, it's pretty easy to cobble together some intercooler piping, and oil/water feed/drain lines for the turbo.

What you should be focusing on now is engine management, and not hardware. Sure you can avoid the cost of a kit by scouring the classifieds, but you can not get around the fact that you want full control of ignition timing and fuel delivery.

sixshooter 04-13-2010 02:32 PM

There is a lot of information that will be helpful to you in the FAQ. The guys here are a little jaded from all of the kids that pollute this forum with the same questions every week and then disappear.

The stock bottom end will hold 200-250 wheel horsepower depending on tune and engine condition. Beyond that you will need forged rods. Do not over-rev the stock bottom end.

There are others running that size turbo with success in those power ranges.

You will need engine management to be safe and effective. Common types are listed in the FAQ.

Keep your cool with the locals until they get to know you. Bite your tongue for a while until the hazing passes and you will pass the test. It is a test.

Most here did not buy a kit. Most have built and pieced together their setups and have done a tremendous amount of research and hands-on development. This is actually part of the reason that they are a little harsh with noobs. They want you to take the initiative to search out the information here yourself. There is a tremendous amount of archived information here that is only a search button away. If you then ask clarifying questions you will not receive abuse. You will often only be shunned if you ask generalized questions with no displayed effort to find the answers yourself. It is viewed as lazy by those here that are "doers." We are a helpful bunch but will not spoon feed you unless you are a chick.

It is customary on this forum to create a post in the "meet and greet" section introducing yourself and outlining your skills, goals, and what year model/equipment you are working with. It is also common practice to edit your information so that your location shows up under your screen name, that others local to you may offer to help or invite you to events. Doing these simple things will show that you are interested in "joining" as opposed to just "taking." The type of responses you receive afterward will typically be different.

We just get too many of the wrong kinds of people creating nonsensical threads and asking too many of the same questions every week.

Welcome and good luck.

hustler 04-13-2010 02:32 PM

You look like a poser ******, and I bet your fabrication skills are fucking incredible...which is why you're a fast food working ****** who will soon if not already live off the tax money teet of the socially productive like myself.

Rather than be nice to ******s like yourself who manage to burst your colostomy bag of self-righteous entitlement in your very first post on this forum, we invite you to eat our shit on toast. We have better things to do than spoon feed ******s like yourself and worry about other queer forums thinking "those trickster turbo miata guys are mean." Instead of crying about it here, why not hang yourself from your belt because your mother never loved you, never will, and you're going to die a virgin.

WonTon 04-13-2010 02:37 PM

hustler if i had a childhood hero, it would be you!


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