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Opinions on these parts?
Anyone used these in the past? Will I have any issues finding turbos/downpipes or other parts to mate up?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mazda...item2ead65805a http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Turbo...item2c4f9cdbc0 Also I have seen a few people refer to "$250.00 DIY Kits" on here. How is that possible with the long list of parts needed to run effectively? Granted, I have never turboed an N/A car before... |
I've seen those parts work but don't always last that long and will sometimes require more fabrication to get everything to work well. There are people who have 250$ kits but they put them together themselves from other projects or donations from friends. They usually have turboed several cars already also.
With this being your first N/A to Turbo car I would do a lot of research and save your money. I would recommend buying more reputable parts and save some money on Intercooler(Ebay) etc. As far as the turbo, manifold, and downpipe go with FM, Begi, etc. It's easier when all are mated for each other and are car specific. Also do it right the first time and you'll save money and headaches. :2cents: |
Work at kfc, slip and break your neck, then when you get paid, buy yourself a 4 cylinder vtec.
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"As far as the turbo, manifold, and downpipe go with FM, Begi, etc. It's easier when all are mated for each other and are car specific. "
Thanks for the advice. I might hit you up with a few questions as I go. Looking at your profile I can see you are pretty handy. |
Originally Posted by chicksdigmiatas
(Post 582883)
Work at kfc, slip and break your neck, then when you get paid, buy yourself a 4 cylinder vtec.
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Have this parts been used yes, I cant recall who, but there was a recent thread made about it. However the first question you should ask yourself is if you're really capable of piecing the items needed? and by that I mean if you have the basic knowledge of what going FI involves and requires. More than likely youre just another "spoon feed me" person, given that you did NOT research shit.
Speadyracer has been a great seller as far as turbos is concern. |
Originally Posted by buffon01
(Post 582908)
Have this parts been used yes, I cant recall who, but there was a recent thread made about it. However the first question you should ask yourself is if you're really capable of piecing the items needed? and by that I mean if you have the basic knowledge of what going FI involves and requires. More than likely youre just another "spoon feed me" person, given that you did NOT research shit.
Speadyracer has been a great seller as far as turbos is concern. |
Originally Posted by brianc555
(Post 582938)
But I am seeing how things are going to go on this forum right away, so I will keep my posts to a bare minimum.
best quote from a Noob ever^^^^^ you've been potty trained already I can see... :giggle: as far as adding any useful info to your thread,...... I have none ;) |
Originally Posted by p51hellfire
(Post 582945)
ohh my... mouthy little guy, look that's the easiest "bashing" you could've gotten, all u had to do was search ebay turbo kits, ebay, etc and you probably would've found something along the lines of, you get what you pay for........
best quote from a Noob ever^^^^^ you've been potty trained already I can see... :giggle: as far as adding any useful info to your thread,...... I have none ;) |
Those 2 manifolds are exactly the same as the BEGi S4 tubular manifolds. BEGi get their S4 manifolds made in china and the company that is making them stated selling them on ebay cheaply. Apparently BEGi aren't too happy about it, but can't do anything to stop it.
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The only sticky in the Pre-Fabbed Kits forum covers it:
https://www.miataturbo.net/prefabbed-turbo-kits-3/ Where is SamNavy with his denoobing stick when he's needed? You absolutely will need a stout brace to make this manifold last more than about a week. That's the only difference I can tell between these and what Corky is selling - he includes a couple of rod ends and a rod when you pay him three times as much. I admit I haven't held either in my hands. Don't know if one, both or neither are actually back-purged when welding, for example. |
I think the real question you have to ask yourself anytime you buy ANY manifold is:
Will turbo hit block? |
Originally Posted by chicksdigmiatas
(Post 582883)
Work at kfc, slip and break your neck, then when you get paid, buy yourself a 4 cylinder vtec.
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Originally Posted by Davex3
(Post 582954)
Those 2 manifolds are exactly the same as the BEGi S4 tubular manifolds. BEGi get their S4 manifolds made in china and the company that is making them stated selling them on ebay cheaply. Apparently BEGi aren't too happy about it, but can't do anything to stop it.
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this thread is full of failzeeez
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Originally Posted by TonyV
(Post 583488)
this thread is full of failzeeez
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Originally Posted by brianc555
(Post 582938)
Actually I did quite a few searches. Didn't find anything about "speedyracerparts" specifically but did read quite a bit about "chinachargers" which I was NOT asking about. I have done a lot of business on ebay and I am very familiar with the risks of purchasing Chinese knock-offs. I am quite capable of piecing the kit together, but most of my experience is with factory turbos. On those cars you dont usually go replacing manifolds unless you have to. But I am seeing how things are going to go on this forum right away, so I will keep my posts to a bare minimum. Anyway, thanks for "spoon feeding" me.
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Originally Posted by Davex3
(Post 582954)
Those 2 manifolds are exactly the same as the BEGi S4 tubular manifolds. BEGi get their S4 manifolds made in china and the company that is making them stated selling them on ebay cheaply. Apparently BEGi aren't too happy about it, but can't do anything to stop it.
Originally Posted by p51hellfire
(Post 583287)
you going to back up that statement with proof? How do you know that there the same? I though bell made there shit in house minus the cast manifolds.
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Originally Posted by buffon01
(Post 583530)
Seriously, that would be fucking awesome......... for us.
Which I have believed must be the case for a long time but hadn't bothered to research until now. |
Originally Posted by SolarYellow510
(Post 583533)
The second post I linked is basically Stephanie saying the Begi S4 is the same as the Ebay manifolds that look exactly like it.
Which I have believed must be the case for a long time but hadn't bothered to research until now. |
'....basically have...' from Stephanie might fall a bit short of 'awesome' by your standards. A DSM is basicaly an Evo in some people's estimation. Basically is a tricky word.
Although I really dont give a crap anyway since if I were dropping coin I would get an S6 or more likely a custom setup from a member here. |
Originally Posted by brianc555
(Post 582876)
Anyone used these in the past? Will I have any issues finding turbos/downpipes or other parts to mate up?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mazda...item2ead65805a http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Turbo...item2c4f9cdbc0 Also I have seen a few people refer to "$250.00 DIY Kits" on here. How is that possible with the long list of parts needed to run effectively? Granted, I have never turboed an N/A car before... My opinion is that it will crack. 250 bucks for a DIY? Sure. If you steal some stuff its very doable. Cheap and relaible (on the street) and decently fast? Used cast mani from someone going tubular. Chinacharger. Build your own MS. Get a IC from wherever, ebay, used OEM etc. Buy some bends and make your own plumbing. Used OEM BOV. A simple water/meth system. A local fabbed exhuast. Your call on the clutch, I will go with a 1.6ACT setup personally. Some injectors from an RX7. And thats about it. Or keep an eye out on the for sales, some sweet deals periodically there. |
Originally Posted by buffon01
(Post 583547)
Oh snap, thats fucking awesome!!
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Originally Posted by Sparetire
(Post 583556)
My opinion is that it will crack.
250 bucks for a DIY? Sure. If you steal some stuff its very doable. Cheap and relaible (on the street) and decently fast? Used cast mani from someone going tubular. Chinacharger. Build your own MS. Get a IC from wherever, ebay, used OEM etc. Buy some bends and make your own plumbing. Used OEM BOV. A simple water/meth system. A local fabbed exhuast. Your call on the clutch, I will go with a 1.6ACT setup personally. Some injectors from an RX7. And thats about it. Or keep an eye out on the for sales, some sweet deals periodically there. OR, you can get most of this stuff from me if your not a complete deadbeat noob. Cast Begi Mani, Stainless Steel DP, GT2560, IC, piping, injectors, and prob few other odds and ends.... PM if interested |
Originally Posted by p51hellfire
(Post 583287)
you going to back up that statement with proof? How do you know that there the same? I though bell made there shit in house minus the cast manifolds.
The S4 manifold is one of the very few items we do not make in house. We did contract someone in China to make it. Supposedly, his brother in law stole the design, copied it, and that is what you find on eBay. Either way, knowing we were dealing with the unethical Chinese market, we did not have it made in it's final form. We do take the manifold, add the EGR, resurface it, and upgrade a few other things. So will the e-bay one work, sure, but not for long. No manifold support - I guarantee it will crack, somewhere, within 500 miles. Small studs will break and/ or stretch. No EGR either. You can add it, but it will cost you. Stephanie http://www.mazda-speed.com/forum2/in...c,19582.0.html |
Similar statements to the other thread. Sounds like they get the parts in and touch up the worst of the obvious QC pitfalls. Re-melt any really embarrassing welds, grind the flanges flat, etc. If you look at all the pictures on Begi's site and all the pictures on Ebay, there is no obvious difference in workmanship.
EGR is something a lot of customers don't care about, and that's different on different years of 1.8. It would make no sense for the factory to build four different versions of the manifold to cover the variations. The brace Begi sells is basically an adjustable end link, but they charge $150 for it, where Emilio charges $80 for a pair of end links. Or you can buy a few parts and a couple tools and make your own for about $30. |
I didnt read the thread after reading the post SolarYellow posted. Anyway is still not a bad deal.
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Ok, so if you wonder where i got my awesome post from in here, youtube vtec song and you will laugh, promise. As for the chinese knock offs, chinese people, in general, not all, have no buisness ethics what so ever, and will tell you anything to get you to buy something. They will straight rip off designs, then cut corners, say their products are the same, and leave you walking away with a swollen back side. My wife designs dresses, that's how i know. So please buy some chinese knock off piece of crap, and keep us rolling at your expense. Then go buy a shanghai s, which ironically is centered around a chinese knock off, and have a fun car, and profit.
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Originally Posted by chicksdigmiatas
(Post 583912)
Ok, so if you wonder where i got my awesome post from in here, youtube vtec song and you will laugh, promise. As for the chinese knock offs, chinese people, in general, not all, have no buisness ethics what so ever, and will tell you anything to get you to buy something. They will straight rip off designs, then cut corners, say their products are the same, and leave you walking away with a swollen back side. My wife designs dresses, that's how i know. So please buy some chinese knock off piece of crap, and keep us rolling at your expense. Then go buy a shanghai s, which ironically is centered around a chinese knock off, and have a fun car, and profit.
New forum word.... "Hyperesque" |
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lol accept for hustler you all fail imo
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Originally Posted by KPLAFIN
(Post 583003)
I think the real question you have to ask yourself anytime you buy ANY manifold is:
Will turbo hit block? |
Originally Posted by TonyV
(Post 583588)
OR, you can get most of this stuff from me if your not a complete deadbeat noob.
Cast Begi Mani, Stainless Steel DP, GT2560, IC, piping, injectors, and prob few other odds and ends.... PM if interested |
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