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Old 11-11-2008, 01:25 PM
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Hi all is it worth it to modify the bonnet / crush the ic pipes up a bit to fit over the radiator IC pipes on a NA ? I seen lots of pics of it done on a NB - few on a NA

My intercoolers piping connection points up or down - for ease of install - over the radiator would be best but it would mean hacking the bonnet - any insight welcome or more pics - I seen the trackdogracing and it looks neat but is it worth it - I know the theory behind charge pipe length
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https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/t16406/ Check out the second picture. This is how I'll do mine, but I'm currently checking and I think that with 2" pipe you don't even have to cut anything
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im going to be doing this soon. 2 inch piping is what im going to use. when im done, ill post pics.
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leather - you think the bonnet will be needing much "manipulation" even with 2 inch or will it clear down those holes in front of the radiator with no issue ?
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no need to cut with 2.5" either
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Originally Posted by bryantaylor
no need to cut with 2.5" either
Yeah but you moved your rad no? I'm talkink about pass the piping in the holes by the side of the hood release system
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I have an over-the-rad setup with 2" pipes. I also have an AC dryer under one hole, and the ABS-car wiper fluid tank fill tube under the other, so I had to move the rad to make it work. I will say, though, that I'm in the market for a different IC setup, so I can squeeze in a bigger rad.
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We need moar pix!
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Moving the rad a little isn't exactly rocket science. Likely as easy and cleaner than cutting the bracing on the hood.
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sigh...Curly to the rescue...yet again.

you can do it without moving the radiator, and with a larger one (I don't have the godspeed one, but the other one, the mitshibishimotojobie one)

But I cut reliefs in my hood, it kinda sucks cause 1. its a little ugly. 2. its hard, you're right next to outer skin, so if you go too deep you ruin the exterior look of your car.

I'm using 2" pipe btw, and it doesn't quite fit correctly, both edges of the hood are flared up slightly, but that's without crushing/deforming the pipes at all. I'll get pictures when I can. might be harder done than said, its a little bit torn apart right now...
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Originally Posted by cueball1
Moving the rad a little isn't exactly rocket science. Likely as easy and cleaner than cutting the bracing on the hood.
Still, I prefer that method :

Looks way cleaner than cutting the hood brace and moving the rad. But it seems in that picture that the owner lowered the rad.
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what is that, a sheet pan bolted to the bottom of the hood? bitchin...
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Originally Posted by curly
what is that, a sheet pan bolted to the bottom of the hood? bitchin...
Dunno lol. May be it's like miror ceilings for better sex?
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good info guys - I have ac but no abs and dont want to relocate the radiator - slight massaging of the hood braces I can live with and cover up and make neat with some fibre glass - but obviously would prefer not to

has anyone got pics from inside the engine bay to the hoods front edge when its closed to actually see how much clearance there is ?
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with an un-cut hood and un-cut hood latch support 'deck', there's next to no clearance, as in less than an inch. Thats for the area directly above the holes that are already there, which many of us use for our pipes. There's room right behind that area, which is where the radiator is, and is why people move it back.
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Originally Posted by Dark Wanderer
Still, I prefer that method :

Looks way cleaner than cutting the hood brace and moving the rad. But it seems in that picture that the owner lowered the rad.
Take a look at how much he had to cut the cross beam. Yikes. I'd like to see some reinforcement there.
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Just a thought, has anyone tried using oval pipes? You can get a transformer pipe from round to oval.
How about a fully silicone hose over those areas and force the hood closed. The heat and the pressure should form the silicone over time.
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is this even necessary on a turbo car?

Anyone have links to the discussion on this?

Thanks,
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I love this setup Track Dog or this diy .The only wrong thing its not my car
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That's how I plan on doing mine...through the holes in front of the radiator.
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