over the rad charge pipes
i know there was a thread about it not to long ago and i thought it was a good idea. the intercooler is a starion front mount, 2 inch pipes. i need to get some mandrel bends and better couplers, i (tried) to run 15psi, and it wasnt going to happen with the current pipes :nono:
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Looks like an interesting functional/low-buck DIY, coupla thoughts:
Air filter sucking hot air from hotside piping proximity=bad--reroute air intake? Airflow over rad looks compromised--i.e., loss of flow due to upper gap. I've seen the over-rad mounting keep the rad in the stock position whilst going through the stock upper frame holes, esp. with smallish (2") I/C piping...ideas? BTW, what happened when you tried to run 15psi? What kit/manifold is that? Speaking of DIY and low-buck, dig the heatshield:) |
Originally Posted by adjemin
(Post 207184)
BTW, what happened when you tried to run 15psi? and its the standard ebay mani |
Looks good, I woud just make a pipe to put the filter by the clutch resivoir and make an air diversion plate for the gap in front of the radiator.
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Originally Posted by bryantaylor
(Post 207188)
the pipes tried to shoot across the bay :vash:
and its the standard ebay mani |
I like the heat shield! LOL ... Does it work? I might have to put a playboy on mine till I can get a shield. Lol
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Timming Belt Cover
Why do you cut the cover off the timming belt? Bigger cam sprockets? Does this compromise the integrity of the belt and holding timming.
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Originally Posted by Toddcod
(Post 207669)
Why do you cut the cover off the timming belt? Bigger cam sprockets? Does this compromise the integrity of the belt and holding timming.
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plans for future mods, hopefully, lol
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How did you go about moving the radiator? I really like the over the rad idea.
And for intake if you plan on making your own you could try cutting a hole in the firewall and routing the air from the cowl, thats what I have now NA, but then again it is easy to do with the stock airbox as it just needs some shopvac hose. |
^ u just find a way to make a longer radiator mount and it should be fine...
on my input though, try n make a cover for that gap so u'll be forcing air through the radiator instead of having it go around |
How does moving the radiator further into the bay compromise cooling efficiency? By the looks of it i would imagine air going up and over the radiator as apposed to forced through.
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Originally Posted by speedf50
(Post 207726)
How did you go about moving the radiator? I really like the over the rad idea.
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Damn Bryan, did you take a can of spray paint to everything under the hood without moving anything?? lol Nice.
Sounds like it's time to invest in some t-clamps! |
Originally Posted by thesnowboarder
(Post 207750)
How does moving the radiator further into the bay compromise cooling efficiency? By the looks of it i would imagine air going up and over the radiator as apposed to forced through.
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Originally Posted by ZX-Tex
(Post 207845)
I think you answered your own question, unless you meant improved cooling specifically for the intercooler. Flow through the intercooler might increase since the radiator provides less restriction. But flow through the radiator would decrease if the air is allowed to flow around it instead of through it.
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Originally Posted by Doppelgänger
(Post 207839)
Damn Bryan, did you take a can of spray paint to everything under the hood without moving anything?? lol Nice.
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I liked the idea and did the following, see pic
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I'd like to see the bracing to compensate for all the cutting on the cross piece.
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Originally Posted by bryantaylor
(Post 207758)
unbolted it, them made the likke bracket you see in the middle, then cut the top hose about an inch at each end
Are you saying that the only thing holding the radiator on is that bracket on top? Also, how well do you reckon the 2" pipes will flow once you stop them from falling apart? |
no, its still on the stock mounts on the bottom. and the 2inch pipes will flow enough for the power i plan on making. i only want a MAX of 200whp
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So its just stock bottom mounts and that upper one in the picture changing the angle, leaving the original upper mounts unbolted?
I really like this idea because it is nice and simple and clean. And do you think the pipes would limit you to 200whp or thats just what you want to achieve? I think that is the kind of power I would want too, I still need to get a ride in a boosted miata. |
i have no idea what it would be good up too, but the most power i want to make is 200. its really fun to drive now at maybee 150whp, at most. 13g at 7-8psi
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I would love to ride in one too. I have bought all these parts and have never ridden in one. Im ready to get mine running and the car turbo'ed.
How much power would you expect from 305cc injectors and 10psi, on a 92 1.6 with a fm kit. 3 inch down pipe? I don't have to pass smog so I was thinking of putting 3 inch to the back. I wounder if that would help or help or hurt it. I want to eventually run 12psi and get a MS but I'm tired of waiting. It is going to run or burn to the ground!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Home depot couplers?
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Originally Posted by reddroptop
(Post 208419)
Home depot couplers?
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Did you need to clearance the hood. If so can you post a pic with the hood closed.
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Originally Posted by The_Pipefather
(Post 208462)
Did you need to clearance the hood. If so can you post a pic with the hood closed.
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I really like your build, how much $ do you have in it so far anyways?
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Originally Posted by speedf50
(Post 208578)
I really like your build, how much $ do you have in it so far anyways?
40 for the intercooler and new outlets welded 70 for the turbo 30 for the injectors 125 IIRC for the mani 20 for a nice DSM O2 houseing that i made a downpipe out of abour 30 in charge pipes/couplers at most so just over $500 |
Yea I'll be doing an over the rad charge pipes as well on my 99. Will go with at least a 18x12x3 core, but may go longer if I can. 18" core puts the center of the charge pipes around 21-22", which is just right to go from the to the SC, or now, the turbo. I'd like to go as large as possible though, so I may put something with a larger core and 'make' it fit.
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Originally Posted by bryantaylor
(Post 208746)
220 for MS
40 for the intercooler and new outlets welded 70 for the turbo 30 for the injectors 125 IIRC for the mani 20 for a nice DSM O2 houseing that i made a downpipe out of abour 30 in charge pipes/couplers at most so just over $500 |
harbor freight $100 welder does wonders man
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i was planning on picking up one of those welders..
ill post pics of my magnificintly effed up welds soon enough =) |
$40 Ebay intercooler piping kits FTW.
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