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Erat 12-18-2013 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by ScottyP3821 (Post 1084116)
No I searched "overboost"

Yeah. After going back and looking at my thread, everyone except for torque zombie gave me all the wrong ideas / answers.

ScottyP3821 12-18-2013 06:53 PM

If they made a ball bearing turbo for my application with a built in bov I'd be all over it. I did lots of searching them and I heard good things from the wrx and Nissan crowd. I just figured the wga was good as a lot of their turbos come with them. I already taken mine apart and it seems to be very high quality and very easily serviceable. Not to side track from the thread but I'm happy with especially considering the price of a garrett can replacement from BEGi.

ScottyP3821 01-17-2014 12:26 PM

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UPDATE** So my buddy already has the tools to port the WG. My question is while I have the FM header and 2560 apart is there anything else I should look into porting? Maybe something like this as well

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1389979615

mx5-kiwi 01-17-2014 01:22 PM

I may be wrong but my guess is that was done with a machine of some sort....

edit: maybe not, it's not as perfectly round as i first thought BUT i would say whoever did that was pretty experienced...

ScottyP3821 01-17-2014 03:02 PM

I think I will focus on porting the waste gate first and if I have enough confidence I may attempt it.

Erat 01-17-2014 07:08 PM

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Yes.

I ported everything hotside on my setup. It wasn't any huge gains, but i could tell a bit of difference from the butt dyno.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1390003689

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1390003689

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1390003689

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1390003689

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c9...s/DSC04276.jpg

I'm almost positive i have before and after photos in my build thread.

ScottyP3821 01-19-2014 04:32 PM

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https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...1&d=1390166811

So I ported my wastegate and it helped a ton. Especially after putting on my enthuza exhaust this week. Before porting with the new exhaust I was hitting 15psi @ 5k and would hit my overboost before going higher. Now I hit 10 psi but experience slight drop in boost momentarily when digging out of 3 or in 4. It will go from 10 than 6 then crawl it's way up to 10. I'm using out on a mbc and still no change. I'm wondering if I may need more preload on my wastegate actuator. Thoughts? Vacuum is good -21 at idle.

Erat 01-19-2014 04:38 PM

Where is the boost controller hooked up? Is it a good boost controller?

ScottyP3821 01-19-2014 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by Erat (Post 1093521)
Where is the boost controller hooked up? Is it a good boost controller?

It's a turbo smart boost t and it's routed between the wastegate and compressor. And mounted on my intake heat sheild. Very short amount of vaccum line.

Erat 01-19-2014 05:11 PM

Take off the MBC and run the vacuum line straight from the intake manifold to the WG. See what that does. If things work, reattach the boost controller, see what it does. If no change then you can move on to other things.

ScottyP3821 01-19-2014 05:24 PM

So cap the compressor vaccum fiiting and run a line from wastegate to throttle body. Then if it goes away run the mbc between the intake manifold and wastgate and see where I stand?

I read in the wiki about this but haven't been led to do so.

Erat 01-19-2014 05:33 PM

Yeah. That's what everyone says to do...

ScottyP3821 01-19-2014 05:52 PM

Ok cool thanks Dillon. I'll be trying this tonight. I saw it on the wiki but didn't follow it as some of the stuff I have followed in the past was incorrect.

ScottyP3821 01-20-2014 12:05 AM

We'll so I just got back and took a log and it looks like I peaked at 11.5psi at 46 deg outside with MAT temps in the 50. That was with vaccum line ran from intake to wastegate and no bc. I didn't noticed the dips in boost as much but they were there barely. If anything now it's not really fluctuations as it is lag. I'll put the mbc on tomorrow and see how it goes. I have a diy ebc solenoid but that was a bitch to try and tune last time I tried then again that was around the time I killed my old clutch.

miata25psi 01-20-2014 01:37 AM

Excessive carbon buildup combined with airflow inconsistencies will deffinately do it.

ScottyP3821 01-20-2014 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by miata25psi (Post 1093617)
Excessive carbon buildup combined with airflow inconsistencies will deffinately do it.

Wth do you mean. I'm not following you.

Erat 01-20-2014 09:10 AM

I think that's a spam bot.

EO2K 01-20-2014 12:11 PM

Post TB source seems like a bad idea, at least according to the logic dropped by Mr Perez: https://www.miataturbo.net/diy-turbo...eed-ebc-47532/

Yes I know that thread is about sag, but the post IC pre TB location seems like a solid idea as long as you are trying things out. Can't hurt anyway

Meeners 01-20-2014 02:49 PM

These are just the situational woes with internally gated setups. It's simple and dependable (especially for low boost), but it's tough to get a precise boost balance/control when in high and low exhaust flow situations without creep up top with all the variable factors and turning it up.

Usually in the winter I have had to turn boost down on previous cars... I usually just dealt with it and set it when it was cold and left it alone and ran lower levels when warmer on my daily. I had a lot of issues with a t28 and a new forge internal actuator for a long while... so I said eff it.

If electronic boost control isn't in your future, Have you looked into going externally gated in the future? I admit I got sucked into EBC's a few years back, but ive had good luck with tial in the past. I don't really see guys running external gate on the smaller frame turbos, but this year I'm running an off brand ewg for the miata and going to see how it does on the 2560r. Just welded the flap shut and discarded all the internal gate stuff.

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...6.jpg~original

18psi 01-20-2014 02:54 PM

you're gonna wanna brace that if you want it to not crack off


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