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RicanmiataRacer 09-05-2006 04:29 PM

Painting A Turbo With High Temp Paint
 
What do you think about this idea, My friend did his turbo with some 1100 degree thermal spray paint and it looks nice, I was thinking a nice black to go along with the car, I think he did about 3 coats:bigtu:

neogenesis2004 09-05-2006 04:48 PM

it was probably vht fireproof paint. You spray it on and bake it in the oven to cure it.

UofACATS 09-05-2006 05:05 PM


Originally Posted by RicanmiataRacer (Post 43096)
What do you think about this idea, My friend did his turbo with some 1100 degree thermal spray paint and it looks nice, I was thinking a nice black to go along with the car, I think he did about 3 coats:bigtu:

Paint on a turbo?

:slap:

UofACATS 09-05-2006 05:14 PM

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Kidding there, maybe try this one?

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The high-temp paint has to be cured at increasingly high temps. That said, I just can't see it lasting. It's just too hot. How long has your friends been painted?

RicanmiataRacer 09-05-2006 05:46 PM

About 3 days ...Its the compressor housing that was painted, I don't see why it would since the temp resistance is 1100 degrees faranhiet

UofACATS 09-05-2006 06:07 PM

Yeah, the can does say that..

Dupli-Color makes a 1600*F paint. People also use "BBQ grill paint" whatever that means.

neogenesis2004 09-05-2006 06:07 PM

the compressor housing should be fine, but the exhaust housing can reach temps approaching 2000 deg.

RicanmiataRacer 09-05-2006 06:17 PM

the exhaust housing of course will eat up that paint like nones business...thats the main creating source of heat...

RicanmiataRacer 09-05-2006 06:23 PM

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Here's my friends sr Turbo, I want to do mine the same way...It will look sweet in the engine bay, I would like also to get my valve cover done the same color, What do you need when doing your valve cover:bigtu:

TheBandit 09-05-2006 06:48 PM

I coated my log manifold in the VHT Fireproof and it has been just fine for the last year or so.
-Michael-

RicanmiataRacer 09-05-2006 06:57 PM

where can you vht fireproof paint...Im curious :bigtu:

F20turbo 09-05-2006 07:33 PM

autozone has it.

UofACATS 09-06-2006 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by TheBandit (Post 43121)
I coated my log manifold in the VHT Fireproof and it has been just fine for the last year or so.
-Michael-

Sounds like a winner

Silviata 09-07-2006 04:43 PM

I want to do my compressor housing the same color as my valve cover

Stripes 09-07-2006 04:48 PM

Don't waste your time with 1600 degree paint. This stuff flaked off within 5 minutes of running my engine.

cccpull 09-07-2006 05:55 PM

The VHT flameproof works. It claims up to 2000 degrees and I believe it. I painted my turbo manifold with it and did the proper curing/baking process.
While tuning I've seen my egt go where no egt gauge should go and the manifold still looks good. Proper surface prep and curing, that'll do it.

neogenesis2004 09-07-2006 07:26 PM

Make sure you clean the shit out of the surface or it will flake at any degree.

Braineack 09-07-2006 08:10 PM

flaked paint adds to the whole DIY experience and appeal.

devin mac 09-07-2006 08:38 PM

agreed. flaking paint will give you mucho street cred. :-)

"yo, watch out for that dude with the paint flaking off his turbo. that's HARDCORE"

nester 09-07-2006 10:22 PM

I can ceramic coat your exhaust housings... Blue, Black, Cast Gray...

TheBandit 09-07-2006 11:17 PM

Just out of curiosity, what do you charge?
-Michael-

nester 09-07-2006 11:21 PM

I can do a standard sized downpipe, turbine housing, and log manifold for ~$200.

Here's some stuff we did in blue..

http://www.zeropointindustries.net/g...1785.sized.jpg

UofACATS 09-08-2006 12:18 AM


Originally Posted by nester (Post 43533)
I can ceramic coat your exhaust housings... Blue, Black, Cast Gray...

Sounds like a new winner. That looks good

RicanmiataRacer 09-08-2006 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by devin mac (Post 43511)
agreed. flaking paint will give you mucho street cred. :-)

"yo, watch out for that dude with the paint flaking off his turbo. that's HARDCORE"

Flaking or not, I still will be faster than most street cars, I plan on 200-230 Hp later down the line after A new clutch is installed, Then in the next year or so I would like to get a set of pistons and rods...I really could care less if thr paint holds through, Heat sheilds are bling bling, cover the flaking turbo to help with heat , there ya go no more Eye sore, My valve cover still looks nice :bigtu:

posidon42 11-03-2007 11:09 PM

I know this is an old post, but I am looking to coat my exhaust manifold and downpipe. I see they still sell this VHT flameproof stuff at autozone. Is this all I need, or do I need the cleaner and primer as well?

Ben 11-03-2007 11:47 PM

I can't see any paint lasting at all. Ceramic coat it if you want, or leave it bare.

Braineack 11-04-2007 12:28 AM

the paint wont last. My last DP was painted in that black grill paint, burnt off after a while.

TheBandit 11-04-2007 01:16 AM

If you prep and follow the instructions for the VHT Flameproof (2000* I think) It will last. Mine has been just fine over a year with that.
-Michael-

paul 11-04-2007 09:49 AM


Originally Posted by TheBandit (Post 170613)
If you prep and follow the instructions for the VHT Flameproof (2000* I think) It will last. Mine has been just fine over a year with that.
-Michael-


Originally Posted by TheBandit (Post 43121)
09-05-2006 06:48 PM I coated my log manifold in the VHT Fireproof and it has been just fine for the last year or so.
-Michael-

So has it been 2 yrs?

kotomile 11-04-2007 11:27 AM

All I know is that whatever Greddy paints the mani with burns off in five minutes.

WhiteNA6 11-04-2007 02:20 PM

Ceramic coat FTW.

posidon42 11-04-2007 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by kotomile (Post 170712)
All I know is that whatever Greddy paints the mani with burns off in five minutes.

Same with FM. That is why I want to know how I can fix it. They are offering me a slight discount on a ceramic coated manifold but I am not sure if it is worth all the effort and additional cost for me to pay for the new part, shipping on that part and shipping on the old part.

Also, the happy search button revealed people doing this on the INSIDE of the header and downpipe. Anyone doing this? I really only want to coat the outside to keep it from looking so horrid, but if I can keep the coating and it won't instantly burn off, I might be interested in it.

TheBandit 11-04-2007 02:34 PM

It's been about 2 years total, but it hasn't been running straight for 2 years..Irregardless it's tough stuff.
-Michael-

posidon42 11-04-2007 04:09 PM

well I checked the local autozone and they only carry the 1200 degree stuff. Guess I will have to order the 2000 degree paint.

Efini~FC3S 11-04-2007 04:13 PM

check out swaintech

that's the way to go, more pricey but well worth it.

mtncrvr 11-04-2007 05:52 PM

fyi ccoating a mani should run ~ 40-65$ depending on where ya go.

mazda/nissan 11-04-2007 10:01 PM

people on here said not to coat the inside incase it chips off, that would be a :nono:

jif 11-05-2007 03:18 PM

I had the mani + turbine housing done in heat insulating HPC ... 6 years ago. Still good.

side note - was goofing around and saw zone 415 on the handcontroller y'day (ie rpm was <2000, boost >0psi !) so it's working well :D

posidon42 11-05-2007 04:38 PM

Hpc?

Doppelgänger 11-05-2007 04:58 PM

high performance coating

SamS 11-05-2007 05:02 PM

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cjernigan asked me a while back about how my ceramic coating from BEGi was holding up, and this past weekend I was able to get a couple pics.

Brand new:
Attachment 215420

After 15 months/20k miles including on salty roads last winter:
Attachment 215421

Attachment 215422

As you can see, it's faded a bit and some surface rust has come through near the head. The SS downpipe doesn't look nearly as pretty as it used to, either.

cjernigan 11-05-2007 05:07 PM

Thanks again for throwing me those pictures before. I've never seen stainless do that. Wonder what kind of stainless they use.

Joe Perez 11-05-2007 05:10 PM

Boy, that's pretty depressing. My manifold is uncoated, but I had my downpipe done by a local shop and though it's not exposed to road salt it still looks great after a year of operation. The shine has dulled somewhat, but nowhere near as bad as that poor Bell manifold looks.

I wonder if the choice of shop (and therefore the choice of coating manufacturer / process) makes a serious difference?

Braineack 11-05-2007 06:06 PM

Do you park inside a salt silo?!

SamS 11-05-2007 06:07 PM

Only after the roads are cleared in the spring/when there's no snow, why?

neogenesis2004 11-05-2007 06:26 PM

I bet the coating would shine up if you took some really fine steel wool to it.

cjernigan 11-05-2007 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 171200)
Boy, that's pretty depressing. My manifold is uncoated, but I had my downpipe done by a local shop and though it's not exposed to road salt it still looks great after a year of operation. The shine has dulled somewhat, but nowhere near as bad as that poor Bell manifold looks.

I wonder if the choice of shop (and therefore the choice of coating manufacturer / process) makes a serious difference?

Who did your coating? There is a semi local shop that will do a miata manifold and T3 turbine housing for $100.

gtx510 11-05-2007 11:26 PM

www.techlinecoatings.com
www.techlinecoatings.com/approved/appappna.htm


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