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alik 09-23-2020 08:45 AM

Please help me ID oil/water ports
 
Because
1) mama did raise a fool, and
2) I searched, but didn't find a concrete answer Are these ports water or oil? Or one of each?
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...59bf6a97df.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...1996b02a69.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...dca9e5858a.jpg
Water pump neck
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...48fe4698ce.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...dcc1bd7f06.jpg

Plus, two questions.
The collar on the water neck of the reroute doesn't have a water port (to the heater core).

Question 1.
Since my turbo isn't water-cooled, could I use one of these ports on the rear of the block to feed to heater core?

Question 2.
What is that little barb on the water pump neck for, and would I be able to mount the p/s bracket (and the A/C) without swapping out the water pump neck?

Thank you, all.
Sincerely,
-Al, the village idiot.

Joe Perez 09-23-2020 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by alik (Post 1581957)
The collar on the water neck of the reroute doesn't have a water port (to the heater core).

Since the mixing manifold (at water pump inlet) was also removed and replaced with that aftermarket part, I can pretty much guarantee that the car that engine came out of had no heater core.




Originally Posted by alik (Post 1581957)
Since my turbo isn't water-cooled, could I use one of these ports on the rear of the block to feed to heater core?

Yes, the one at the flywheel end labeled "Water out to turbo." Note that it won't be as warm coming from this location as it would have been coming from the head.



Originally Posted by alik (Post 1581957)
What is that little barb on the water pump neck for, and would I be able to mount the p/s bracket (and the A/C) without swapping out the water pump neck?

The barb on the front would be the return for water coming back from the OEM oil cooler (if fitted), and the thermovalve on the intake manifold and preheater on the underside of the throttle body.

I seriously doubt that power steering or A/C will fit with that water inlet neck. Since you want those, and also a heater, I suggest you remove that piece and replace it with an OEM mixing manifold. You'll also need the OEM pipe which runs from the mixing manifold, back along the side of the block just below the exhaust ports.

If I were you, I'd pop that water outlet off of the back (flywheel side) of the head, and verify that there's a thermostat in there. Probably replace it with a new one while it's accessible.

Also, replace the little black rubber cap which is blocking a nippe that's not visible in the photos. It's just below the coolant temp sensor on the flywheel side. They get old and leak, and are a bitch to replace with the engine in the car.

alik 09-23-2020 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1581960)
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...546bfedcde.png



Since the mixing manifold (at water pump inlet) was also removed and replaced with that aftermarket part, I can pretty much guarantee that the car that engine came out of had no heater core.




Yes, the one at the flywheel end labeled "Water out to turbo." Note that it won't be as warm coming from this location as it would have been coming from the head.



I seriously doubt that power steering or A/C will fit with that water inlet neck. Since you want those, and also a heater, I suggest you remove that piece and replace it with an OEM mixing manifold. You'll also need the OEM pipe which runs from the mixing manifold, back along the side of the block just below the exhaust ports.

That's what I thought!
I've got the stock engine, that has stock mixing manifold and the heater pipe.


If I were you, I'd pop that water outlet off of the back (flywheel side) of the head, and verify that there's a thermostat in there. Probably replace it with a new one while it's accessible.

Gotcha!

Also, replace the little black rubber cap which is blocking a nipple that's not visible in the photos. It's just below the coolant temp sensor on the flywheel side. They get old and leak, and are a bitch to replace with the engine in the car.

Understood!

Joe, thanks very much for taking the time to answer.
Seems like the best solution would be to take my "other" reroute collar with the water nipple to the heater core, and seal off the "water out to turbo" inlet.

Again, greatly appreciate the guidance, sir!

Joe Perez 09-23-2020 02:15 PM

Also, if you have a ball-bearing turbo, you will want to install a restrictor inline with the "oil out to turbo" fitting. That port is fed from the same relatively narrow channel which delivers oil to the rear main crankshaft bearing, and a ball-bearing turbo will allow way too much oil to come out of the block.

If you have a sleeve-bearing turbo, you're probably ok running without one. No personal experience there, just anecdote.

alik 09-23-2020 02:24 PM

Thanks, Joe, it's not a BB unit.

:-P


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