Power falls off at 6800 RPM 18 psi 2871R
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My car seems to roll off power hard after 6800 rpm in low boost (10 psi) and high boost (18 psi) Is this a problem with the stock igniter? Does anyone else have problems dropping off power at this RPM?
92 Miata Link ECU (rev limit set at 7200) E-85 850cc injectors Built 94 bottom end / 99 head and intake manifold GT2871R Stock igniter Toyota COP ~18 PSI __________________________________________________ _____ Data Log Lab MAP File File Created: 06-Mar-2012 14:41 015 088 072 254 040 211 020 022 017 088 022 034 000 035 035 052 015 010 049 047 012 020 012 011 010 009 061 062 070 087 099 100 056 051 053 056 066 062 059 063 071 066 065 064 063 062 059 056 052 053 057 063 066 070 064 072 071 074 072 069 064 063 062 060 054 056 059 061 067 071 075 081 079 088 087 076 071 067 066 064 059 061 063 065 069 082 080 101 100 102 098 097 097 093 088 085 067 069 071 073 076 087 105 108 111 113 114 114 111 105 100 098 006 005 081 083 085 094 101 106 105 108 110 107 099 094 090 089 040 040 052 077 081 120 124 127 125 120 118 121 124 126 128 130 040 040 064 104 114 118 121 123 122 112 107 109 112 116 120 124 040 040 080 098 104 106 108 104 100 098 100 102 104 106 110 114 040 040 077 094 100 098 090 081 073 070 074 080 086 091 095 099 040 040 060 080 085 078 068 059 052 050 053 057 062 068 074 080 000 000 045 052 055 053 046 038 033 030 038 046 051 056 062 066 003 194 022 050 102 254 254 255 254 254 254 254 254 254 254 254 000 084 049 032 008 100 080 150 015 030 016 025 026 035 030 032 Engine Size: 1.8 Chip Date: 2001-09-18 Chip Version: 2 Atmospheric Pressure: 100 |
Wow that is quite significant. In for the answer.
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3'' Exhaust?
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Yes, It has a full 3" exhaust. And a .68 a/r turbine housing. Also its a genuine garrett GT2871r.
http://www.stanlevine.com/Miata/Album8.htm |
What are you using for boost control and where is it getting its signal?
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Does it feel like power fails on the street too?
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I'm using a manual Hallman boost controller off the compressor housing. It does not feel like its falling off power on the street; however there is a lot going on ie. open wastegate, high rpm, just before I shift.
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Post a log of a street pull with boost logged.
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Originally Posted by spestis
(Post 853464)
Yes, It has a full 3" exhaust. And a .68 a/r turbine housing. Also its a genuine garrett GT2871r.
http://www.stanlevine.com/Miata/Album8.htm |
run your boost line off the manifold and not the turbo.
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I don't think the drop in power is from a loss in boost. In the dyno chart you can see boost raise up as power falls off. More like there is some restriction in the system.
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Originally Posted by spestis
(Post 853585)
I don't think the drop in power is from a loss in boost. In the dyno chart you can see boost raise up as power falls off. More like there is some restriction in the system.
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Doubt you're having weak spark with the toyota cops. And you'd get misfires/blowout if you did. Look at the boost curve: it sags a good bit then shoots up towards the very end: doesn't look good to me, even if that's not your torque taper problem.
what does your timing map look like? |
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My thought was maybe the Link ecu and stock ignitor are having problems after 6800 rpm. You are correct if it was igntion I should feel the car break up.
Timing Chart Below KPA / RPM |
well the timing is fairly ballsy, so its not the timing. lol
are you seriously running 30* @ 200 kpa or am I reading that wrong? |
Are you using the factory ignitor AND the Toyota COPs in tandem? The Toyota coils have on-board ignitors.
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Good call, the chart was incorrect. I posted the correct timing chart above. I forgot my stock ignitor box was gutted. I have not worked on my car in around 3 years.
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perhaps its too much timing up top. then again...ur making alot of power maybe its time to look into getting cams.
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Originally Posted by samwu8k
(Post 853665)
perhaps its too much timing up top. then again...ur making alot of power maybe its time to look into getting cams.
You are wrong. |
Update: I did find the problem. The dynos RPM numbers are off and the power drop signature is the Link ECU hitting the rev limit (at 7200 rpm). The Link drops the timing to 0 deg. just before the rev limit and that is why the power falls off. The dyno was off by several hundred RPM.
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