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slutz4 03-26-2009 01:41 PM

I just welded the bolts shut after I removed the lines

kotomile 03-26-2009 03:55 PM

Those who think it's too heavy: you did de-power, and not just remove the belt, right?

Saml01 03-26-2009 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by kotomile (Post 387029)
Those who think it's too heavy: you did de-power, and not just remove the belt, right?

May I just add that I drove a factory manual rack car.

Vashthestampede 03-26-2009 05:05 PM


Originally Posted by Saml01 (Post 387031)
May I just add that I drove a factory manual rack car.

May I just add I might beat your ass into the ground you bitch. :vash:

Factory manual rack right here BTW.

kotomile 03-26-2009 10:12 PM

Heh, a factory manual is a bit easier than a depowered PS rack..

You ought to eat some meat or something Sam. :giggle:

Tremiata 03-27-2009 08:51 AM

This place sells plugs 2nd Item below steering wheels.
Advanced Autosports Suspension and Steering

Saml01 03-27-2009 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by kotomile (Post 387182)
Heh, a factory manual is a bit easier than a depowered PS rack..

You ought to eat some meat or something Sam. :giggle:

You eat some meat fagort. ;)

I'm plenty strong and probably in better shape then 99% of this forum.

In the end, it doesnt matter how strong I am, or how strong anyone is, a manual rack imho is a pita.

gospeed81 03-27-2009 11:55 AM

Man I sure could go for a pita right now...


I was all gungho about depowering the rack, but after dropping the car with the Tein springs yesterday, I'm having my doubts.

I still like the idea of it though:

more feedback + less weight > convenience

Saml01 03-27-2009 12:45 PM


Originally Posted by gospeed81 (Post 387408)
Man I sure could go for a pita right now...


I was all gungho about depowering the rack, but after dropping the car with the Tein springs yesterday, I'm having my doubts.

I still like the idea of it though:

more feedback + less weight > convenience

What feedback? If you are turning all you feel is the counter force of the steering wheel wanting to go straight. You are now basically using energy to keep the car turning. I dont even want to think about how people autocross with a manual rack, holy crap.

kotomile 03-27-2009 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by Saml01 (Post 387372)
You eat some meat fagort. ;)

I'm plenty strong and probably in better shape then 99% of this forum.

Okie dokie.. you're still a sissy though. :makeout:

slutz4 03-27-2009 05:31 PM

just depowered mine flyin miata way with superpro bushings. Too bad I wont be able to test it until I have a motor back in my car lol.

gospeed81 03-27-2009 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by Saml01 (Post 387426)
What feedback? If you are turning all you feel is the counter force of the steering wheel wanting to go straight. You are now basically using energy to keep the car turning. I dont even want to think about how people autocross with a manual rack, holy crap.

I was just about to respond:


"I want to FEEL every ripple in the pavement, and KNOW where my contact patches are.."


When I realized this is the kind of shit squids say when you ask them why the don't wear riding gear.

eg:

"I want to FEEL the modulation of the brakes, and you can't do that with gloves. I want to SENSE the lean of the bike, and a helmet messes that up.."


Maybe I should drive someone's depowered car before I jump off of that bridge.

ZX-Tex 03-27-2009 07:08 PM

I just drove my depowered rack for the first time this afternoon. There is definitely additional steering effort at lower speeds.

- Parking lot maneuvers are definitely harder but not a huge deal.

- Low speed takes more effort. The drive out of my neighborhood has a lot of 20-30 mph corners. Before I could flick through these corners with one hand. Now it takes two hands to get a quick turn-in. Not a big deal I just need some time to get used to it IMO.

- Medium speed and higher is fine. On the highway, or say at 40+ MPH speeds, I like it a lot. The extra feel is nice, and it is one-hand drivable.

A small caveat here. I replaced the outer tie rod joints while I had the rack out and the alignment is a bit off (not way off). That could have some effect on the steering input. Also, for the record, mine is an FM style depower with the seal removed.

kotomile 03-27-2009 07:29 PM

After about a week, you'll be parallel parking with one hand.

gospeed81 03-28-2009 06:46 AM


Originally Posted by kotomile (Post 387598)
After about a week, you'll be parallel parking with one hand.

As long as it's his "favored" hand. :giggle:

ZX-Tex 03-28-2009 08:47 AM

Rosie Palm and her five sisters :giggle:

sv650_ck 03-28-2009 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by gospeed81 (Post 387555)
Maybe I should drive someone's depowered car before I jump off of that bridge.

Too late for me. I just did mine but haven't tried it out yet. My last alignment I had the camber reduced down to 4.5 which I've heard reduces the effort?

Qckslvr 03-28-2009 12:28 PM

well if any one needs I have a pile of P/S parts as well :D

Along with a small pile of A/C parts too.

kotomile 03-28-2009 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by ZX-Tex (Post 387746)
Rosie Palm and her five sisters :giggle:

Palmela Handerson :loser:

spoolin2bars 03-28-2009 09:57 PM


Originally Posted by sv650_ck (Post 387747)
Too late for me. I just did mine but haven't tried it out yet. My last alignment I had the camber reduced down to 4.5 which I've heard reduces the effort?

i hope you mean ''caster'' -4.5 camber would be WILD!


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