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thirdgen 05-19-2010 06:58 PM

On the other hand, cause I feel like a noob today...i searched and just read about injector driver circuitry. Rx7 550's are cheap and easy to come by, and they are low imp like my 460's. So I think I'll look for a set of them.

18psi 05-19-2010 08:22 PM

dw600's are completely pnp and work excellent. many adaptronic owners started off with them.

Many of us have moved on up to 1000's BUWAHAHHAHAHA

thirdgen 05-19-2010 09:05 PM

Since the DW 600's are high imp, do I need to modify my ms?

shlammed 05-19-2010 09:56 PM

do you have the circuitry, or an external box for injector resistance now?

the DW units are plug and play, no resistors needed.

thirdgen 05-20-2010 09:06 PM

Selecting proper turbo
 
So I'm stumped about the turbo. Currently I probably make about 235 whp at 14 psi. It is fully spooled by 3700rpm.
I want to make 250 whp easily by 10 psi, and be fully spooled by 5000 rpm. I'm thinking 2871, or maybe even 3071? Must be internally wastegated. Please help me choose.

Sparetire 05-20-2010 09:17 PM

Why the 10 psi limiter? 250ish WTQ with an IAT of x is what it is regardless of what the KPA happens to be.

thirdgen 05-20-2010 09:23 PM

True. I was just using the 10 psi as an example. Meaning, I want to make a lot more power than I do now, with less boost and still have headroom. Where my current turbo is maxed, I want my new turbo to just get started.

shlammed 05-21-2010 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 575242)
completely disagree
in fact I did just that: put in OEM (lower comp though) 9.1:1 pistions and upgraded rods. so far nothing but great results and very satisfied

this just came up with a friend just now and got me thinking actually....


What are the miata pistons good until? or is it just detonation that kills the pistons, but the rods like to bend all over wonky with power?


FYI im thinking could i max out a 2860 or 2871 on stock piston/m-tuned rod combo?

18psi 05-21-2010 06:33 PM

The general opinion I got when reading up on it was that detonation kills them. Improper tuning, bad gas, knock, etc. Not steady pressure. Their ringlands aren't weak like on a subaru so they don't "just go".

Rods on the other hand, have been known to bend/break even on well running engines. In fact quite a few were pulled from OPERATIONAL engines that were all bent.

shlammed 05-21-2010 06:47 PM

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Cool... when i was in my nissan... i did this...which is why im not fond of stock pistons:

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at 7psi with decent timing and lots of fuel....



But, i need to put a new gasket set on my miata since i have a ton of little oil leaks to fix and when i have the head off, i might as well toss in some quick rod action.

thirdgen 05-21-2010 06:53 PM

So back to me and my thread. I was looking at the GT2871 on the Garrett site and it looks like they come in many different part number and turbine A/R's. Which one do I pick?

viperormiata 05-21-2010 07:28 PM


Originally Posted by thirdgen (Post 576523)
So back to me and my thread. I was looking at the GT2871 on the Garrett site and it looks like they come in many different part number and turbine A/R's. Which one do I pick?

I'm pretty much deciding the same thing as you. What you(and me) NEED to remember in choosing a turbo/motor setup is whether or not it's for a street car or a track car.

For street cars, a smaller turbine a/r is great for spool and the 2871 and 28RS will still have good top end power and have headroom for 300+whp.

Street car and internally gated: the 64 a/r is generally chosen.
Track car: 86 a/r is used. Lower egt's/ better top end. Good for cars that are constantly in boost.

Hope this helps.

thirdgen 05-21-2010 08:14 PM

If you go here, it lists different 2871's in .64 A/R with many different wheels. How do I know what to choose?
http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...ison_sheet.htm

thirdgen 05-21-2010 08:21 PM

If you go here, it lists different 2871's in .64 A/R with many different wheels. How do I know what to choose?
http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...ison_sheet.htm

thirdgen 05-21-2010 08:22 PM

Damn double posting I phone going in and out of 3g pos. That's what I get for posting from work in the building.


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