Rate my setup you surly bastards
So after hours of hard research (skimming the stickys and watching some youtube videos) I've come up with a setup for my 1.8 swapped '90. Feel free to take a massive shit on it and rip me a new one.
MSPNP2 AEM UEGO wideband XTD Stage 3 eBay special Clutch kit (spicy, I know) Flowforce EV14 550cc injectors ISR 50 trim T3 w/.63 A/R housing Inconel Studs Ebay log manifold eBay intercooler kit 38mm external wastegate Suggestions? |
Dont run an external wastegate, unless you are good at fabricating custom parts.
Get a real clutch that has a good history. 949, FM etc. |
You need to read this forum for another 11 months.
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I give it two and a half thumbs up, my lowest rating ever.
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Damn that's a higher rating than I was expecting! What could i change to get up to 2 and 3/4 thumbs
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If the car's a piece of shit, you've got a shitty setup to go with it. It'll still make boost, be semi reliable, and you'll be very happy.
If you've got a decent Miata, I'd suggest spending a few extra hundred dollars for a name brand clutch, ms3, and a better turbo. Plenty of the members here have ebay intercoolers. If you're referring to the cast log manifold, you should be ok, although you'll need a downpipe flange and a custom downpipe. If you're referring to a welded ebay log manifold, it'll crack within weeks and you'll still need a custom down pipe. |
Thanks for reply!
My target is around 180whp for this car, at this power level, what specific issues would I face going with MS2 vs MS3? ie, would having a 12x12 ignition table on the MS2 be a dealbreaker compared to the 16x16 in the MS3? Any suggestion for a T3 that'll spool fast and make 180 to the wheels? And yeah i'm talking about the cast log mani |
You could make bananas horsepower on MS1 if you wanted. You want MS3 because it makes tuning driveability better as well as useful integration features.
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Why on earth do you want to use a T3 sized turbo for a 180whp power goal?
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The bullshit excuse is that I'm planning for more power in the future
The real reason is that I can't really find a good T2 manifold on ebay. |
Originally Posted by StupidF*ckingN00b
(Post 1530879)
The bullshit excuse is that I'm planning for more power in the future
The real reason is that I can't really find a good T2 manifold on ebay. |
the 0.63 T3/T4 from the MKTurbo kit is the one to get. Wastegate pressure alone should get you 180. I run MS2, it’s not great but it works. Buy a real clutch.
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Originally Posted by StupidF*ckingN00b
(Post 1530817)
MSPNP2 $799
AEM UEGO wideband $169 XTD Stage 3 eBay special Clutch kit (spicy, I know) $234 Flowforce EV14 550cc injectors $299 ISR 50 trim T3 w/.63 A/R housing $399 Inconel Studs $129 Ebay log manifold $105 eBay intercooler kit $160 38mm external wastegate $75 Let's say you increase your budget to just over $3k, which is only 25% more, you'd be able to get the following: MSPNP2 $799 AEM UEGO wideband $169 supermiata organic $339 Flowforce EV14 550cc injectors $299 SR20 T25 with gpop rebuild $300 Inconel Studs $129 Kraken manifold and dp $830 eBay intercooler kit $160 Then you have a genuine garrett turbo, name brand and trusted clutch, a decent manifold with downpipe included, and you can still save some money scrapping together an intercooler kit. If you want more drivability, you'll want a MS3 for $300 more. If you want a little more grab from your clutch you can either go with the ACT ACL-ZM2-XTSS for a heavy pedal or SM's sprung puck clutch for more grabbiness. If you don't want to rebuild your turbo, you can go with a genuine new garrett with a little more head room like a 2560r for ~$900 more. As you can see your budget was close, but you're risking a lot. Just keep in mind a decent downpipe for the ebay manifold that looks like the Kraken downpipes is in the $400-500 range, or you can use FM's for $550. |
Originally Posted by StupidF*ckingN00b
(Post 1530879)
The bullshit excuse is that I'm planning for more power in the future
The real reason is that I can't really find a good T2 manifold on ebay. https://www.ebay.com/itm/cast-iron-t...bRyJp&LH_BIN=1 |
Yeah I saw that one, What are your plans for the external wastegate flange? Blockoff plate or run an external?
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Originally Posted by StupidF*ckingN00b
(Post 1531028)
Yeah I saw that one, What are your plans for the external wastegate flange? Blockoff plate or run an external?
Here is the list of parts I am using, from my build thread. Im taking risks with some of them, as I know they aren't all 100% plug and play, or there isn't strong documentation for compatibility. It might give you some ideas though. Reader beware, im still installing my clutch, thus i can't really speak to any of these parts. Check back in with me in a couple months and i can give better feedback. |
Inconel studs seem like an unnecessary expense for a pretty basic setup. I know they're needed at some point, but my stock studs have never given me an issue. Unless you're planning some significant track time (in which case you have bigger issues to address anyway) then I'd use that money elsewhere.
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Avoid ebay clutches. They have a tendency to randomly explode or turn into dust.
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This whole thread is a dumpster fire...
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Originally Posted by WigglingWaffles
(Post 1531207)
This whole thread is a dumpster fire...
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