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Bond 04-28-2008 11:31 PM

Rear mounted turbo?
 
Been looking around the forum for a couple months now doing some research before I try anything or say anything stupid but...

I searched but couldn't find anything on this and was wondering if anyone had tried a rear mounted turbo on a miata. I know a friend who put an STS rear mount on his rx8 and is running 7-8 PSI pushing out about 350 RWHP. I'm not sure where there would be room for a turbo under a miata but it seemed like a decent idea to keep the engine bay temps down. I'd like to know what you guys thought about this system. Thanks in advance...

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Splitime 04-28-2008 11:41 PM

There is a guy on clubroadster doing it... the majority of us think he is silly for doing it. He's doing a much cleaner install this time around, still rigged in back a bit though.

On cars that don't have space to do it... its usefull. On cars with space... its stupid... period.

paul 04-28-2008 11:42 PM

there is plenty of room under there once you get rid of the factory muffler.

We toyed with the idea a bit for my daily driver before I settled on the BEGi S. the idea of having to run an additional pump(s) to get oil(& water) back there turned me off.

cjernigan 04-28-2008 11:51 PM

The increased plumbing for both the charge piping and oiling isn't something I would want to deal with. Kurt Rohmer has threads here and miata.net about doing it. Most of his problems stem from not using the correct parts for any of his build. Everything he used was super cheap, such as rubber hose for charge piping.

Bond 04-28-2008 11:52 PM


Originally Posted by paul (Post 249106)
there is plenty of room under there once you get rid of the factory muffler.

We toyed with the idea a bit for my daily driver before I settled on the BEGi S. the idea of having to run an additional pump(s) to get oil(& water) back there turned me off.

Never thought about that. Supposedly though a rear mount is supposed to be able tocool the charge with the long boost pipes leading up to the front so there is no need for a FMIC. Interesting idea but not sure if it is practical for our cars.

paul 04-28-2008 11:54 PM

Yes, that's one of the reasons I considered it. That and I had a hard-on for keeping my RB 4:1 header for some reason.

Bond 04-28-2008 11:54 PM

just found this

https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/sho...ht=Kurt+Rohmer

my bad... ha ha

left field 04-28-2008 11:54 PM

under the hood is the easier way of doing it. high engine bay temps aren't really a problem, just build it right.

XxGoKoUxX 04-28-2008 11:56 PM

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Mach929 04-29-2008 12:14 AM

i don't see a problem with it but i tend to like different stuff. the miata does have a good amount of room back there i don't think that will be a problem. My only worry is the oil system, it's gotta be just right. in my mind they work better with bigger turbos and lower boost?

Saml01 04-29-2008 12:20 AM

That guy has no hair on his ass.

Lucky fuck.

miatamania 04-29-2008 12:32 AM

What about using a rear mount for a twincharged setup?

Splitime 04-29-2008 12:35 AM


Originally Posted by miatamania (Post 249138)
What about using a rear mount for a twincharged setup?

You can do that all in the engine bay also.

disturbedfan121 04-29-2008 12:44 AM


Originally Posted by miatamania (Post 249138)
What about using a rear mount for a twincharged setup?

if alta can squeeze a supercharger AND turbo under the hood of a mini, our engine bays can fit anything you can think of.

here's the link for anyone who cares-
http://altaminiperformance.com/produ.../22/Twurbo-Kit

18psi 04-29-2008 01:14 AM

imo its not worth the effort, especially since miatas have so much room under the hood for a proper turbo setup

miatamania 04-29-2008 01:38 AM

I know you CAN do it under the hood, I was just thinking of where a rear mount could actually help?

18psi 04-29-2008 01:51 AM

on a gto or a corvette where there is little room under the hood i can see it working....IN FACT, the sts kits they tested on the vettes were VERY impressive

patsmx5 04-29-2008 02:03 AM

Rear mount turbos are used when a turbo can not be confined closer to the engine in the traditional way. In a miata a remote mount would offer no real appreciable advantages. The added complexity sucks. Plus it will spool later.

Braineack 04-29-2008 09:26 AM

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Volvo 440 turbo as its nice and small to minimize spool up time.

Boost came in about 4k, lag was almost non-existant.

Enough said. That toy of a turbo should spool fully during cranking. IIRC, it's a Garrett T2 compressor wheel and a T15 Turbine at .48 A/R.

Zabac 04-29-2008 09:41 AM

Rear mount turbo on a Miata is super awesome...




























































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