Recommendations for t3/t25 junkyard turbos?
 

i was on begi's site today and saw that they are finally having a sale on there 1.6 cast manifolds for either t3 or t25 turbo's. so i was thinking might as well jump on this good deal they having going and get rid of my scary ( feels like it could crack any minute ) dsm 14b turbo w/ebay mani and down pipe set up. i just dont feel comfortable with the ebay mani and down pipe i have for my dsm 14b set up, both pieces have cracked and i dont want to go through with removing and repairing.

I junkyard hop alot and i do come by ALOT of turbo'd cars but im a little clueless as to which turbos from which cars would benifit a 1.6L. i dont want to spend much so thats why a junkyard turbo would be do-able for now.

a t3 or t25 is fine with me since those footprints are the only type manifold begi is having a sale on

Thank you :noob::bowrofl:

there were old fords that had t3/60s on them that you can find for cheap and rebuild. Those will get you an easy 230-250whp with supporting mods (standalone, exhaust, etc)

Go into the BS section and click on the sticky "Every Miata Website You'll Ever Need".

Down in the MISC section of the first post, there's a link to "JUNKYARD TURBO LIST".

All right, I'll be nice, here's the list:

Junkyard Turbo List
Last updated: 09/06/2002

AUDI-Europe 200 88 2.2L KKK K26
AUDI-Europe 200 88-91 2.2L KKK K24
AUDI-Europe 200 Quattro 91 2.2L KKK K24
AUDI-Europe 5000 80-88 2.2L KKK K26
AUDI-Europe 5000 Diesel 2.0L 88 KKK K24
AUDI-Europe 5000 Quattro 82-88 2.2L KKK K26
AUDI-Europe S4 Quattro 92-94 2.2L KKK K24
AUDI-Europe S4 Biturbo/tt-180 99 2.7L/1.8L KKK K03
AUDI-Europe TT-225hp 99 1.8L KKK K04
AUDI A3, A4, A6, Cabriolet 1.8L,/1.9L diesel GAR GT-15

BMW 324TD/524TD 83-86 GAR TB0324
BMW 745I 84-86 KKK K27

BUICK GNX 87 3.8L GAR TB0348
BUICK Monte Carlo/Regal 78-83 3.8L carbed GAR TB0348
BUICK Riviera 80-85 3.8L GAR TB0308
BUICK Grand National/T-Type 86-87 3.8L (Intercooled) GAR TB0348 (TA48)
BUICK Trans Am 89 3.8L GAR TB0348 (water)
BUICK Century 78 3.8L GAR TB0301
BUICK Century 79 3.8L GAR TB0304
BUICK Century 80 3.8L GAR TB0308

CHEVY Sprint 1.0L IHI RHB31
CHEVY Spectrum 85-90 1.5L IHI RHB521
CHRYSLER Conquest, Intercooled 87 2.6L MHI TD05
CHRYSLER Laser (Auto) 90-94 2.2L MHI TD04
CHRYSLER Laser (Manual) 90-94 2.2L MHI TD05H
CHRYSLER LeBaron 89-92 2.5L MHI TE04H
CHRYSLER LeBaron 88 2.5L MHI TE04H
CHRYSLER New Yorker 88 2.5L MHI TE04H
CHRYSLER New Yorker 84-87 2.2L GAR TB0335
CHRYSLER Town & Country 88 2.2L MHI TE04H
CHRYSLER Town & Country 84-87 2.2L GAR TB0335
CHRYSLER Charger/Shelby 87-90 2.2L GAR TB03 (water)
CHRYSLER Shelby CSX-Daytona/Baron GTC/Shadow ES 89-90 2.2L GAR TB03 VNT (variable nozzle)

DODGE 600 88 2.5L MHI TE04H
DODGE 600 85-87 2.2L GAR TB0335
DODGE Aries 88 2.2L MHI TE04H
DODGE Caravan 89-90 2.5L MHI TE04H
DODGE Conquest (Intercooled) 87 2.6L MHI TD05
DODGE Daytona 89-92 2.5L MHI TE04H
DODGE Daytona Shelby 88 2.2L MHI TE04H
DODGE Daytona Shelby 84-87 2.2L GAR TB0335
DODGE Lancer 89 2.5L MHI TE04H
DODGE Lancer 88 2.5L MHI TE04H
DODGE Lancer 85-87 2.2L GAR TB0335
DODGE Omni 85-87 2.2L GAR TB0335
DODGE Shadow 89-92 2.5L MHI TE04H
DODGE Shadow 88 2.5L MHI TE04H
DODGE Shadow 87 2.2L GAR TB0335
DODGE Spirit 89-92 2.5L MHI TE04H

EAGLE Talon (Manual) 90-94 2.0L MHI TD05H (45 trim)
EAGLE Talon (Auto) 90-95 2.0L MHI TD04
EAGLE Talon (Manual) 95-98 2.0L MHI T25 (45 trim)

FORD Mustang GT 85-86 2.3L GAR TB0344
FORD Mustang GT/T-bird 83-84 GAR (AiR) TB0344
FORD Probe GT 88-92 2.2L IHI RHB52W
FORD T-Bird 85-86 2.3L (auto) GAR (AiR) TB0344 (45 trim oil only)
FORD T-Bird 85-86 2.3L (Manual) GAR (AiR) TB03 60 trim (watercooled)
FORD T-Bird 87-88 (water) IHI RHB52
FORD Fiesta 90+ 1.6L GAR T2
FORD Escort 84-86 IHI RHB5

ISUZU MPR Truck 88-92 IHI RHB6-A

MAZDA 626, MX6 88-92 2.2L IHI RHB52W
MAZDA 323 GTX turbo 88-89 1.6L IHI RHB52W (water)

MERCEDES 300D, SDT, TD 78-84 3.0L GAR TA0301
MERCEDES 300SDL 78-83 3.0L GAR TA0301
MERCEDES 300SDL (Calif.) 86-87 3.0L GAR TB0359

MERCURY Capri 85-86 2.3L GAR TB0344
MERCURY Cougar 85-86 2.3L GAR TB0344
MERKUR XR4Ti 85-88 2.3L GAR TB0344

MITSUBISHI Eclipse (Auto) 90-94 2.2L MHI TD04
MITSUBISHI Eclipse (Manual) 90-94 2.2L MHI TD05H
MITSUBISHI Eclipse (Manual) 95-98 2.0L MHI T25 (45 trim)
MITSUBISHI Galant (Auto) 88-94 2.2L MHI TD04
MITSUBISHI Galant (Manual) 88-94 2.2L MHI TD05H
MITSUBISHI Starion (Intercooled) 85-87 2.6L MHI TD05
MITSUBISHI 3000GT VR4 - 2x MHI TD04H

PLYMOUTH Acclaim 89-92 2.5L MHI TE04H
PLYMOUTH Caravelle 88 2.5L MHI TE04H
PLYMOUTH Caravelle 85-87 2.2L GAR TB0335
PLYMOUTH Conquest, Intercooled 85-89 2.6L MHI TD05
PLYMOUTH Laser (Auto) 89-94 2.0L MHI TD04
PLYMOUTH Laser (Manual) 89-94 2.0L MHI TD05H
PLYMOUTH Sundance 89-92 2.5L MHI TE04H
PLYMOUTH Sundance 88 2.5L MHI TE04H
PLYMOUTH Sundance 87 2.2L GAR TB0335
PLYMOUTH Voyager 89-90 2.5L MHI TE04H

PONTIAC Sunbird GT 88-90 2.0L GAR T2
PONTIAC Sunbird GT 84-86 1.8L GAR T2
PONTIAC Grand Prix 89-90 3.1L GAR T25 (water)

SAAB 9000 (16V Intercooled) 87-88 2.0L GAR TB0356
SAAB 900 (16V Intercooled) 87 2.0L GAR TB0339 (Oilcld)
SAAB 900 (16V Intercooled) 84-86 2.0L GAR TB0339 (Oilcld)
SAAB 9000 (16V Intercooled) 85-86 2.0L GAR TB0343
SAAB 900 (8V, APC) 82-84 2.0L GAR TB0321

VOLVO 200 82-84 2.3L GAR TB0313
VOLVO 740 89-93 2.3L MIT TD04H
VOLVO 740 87-89 2.3L MIT TD05
VOLVO 760 89-93 2.3L MIT TD04H
VOLVO 760 87-89 2.3L MIT TD05
VOLVO 780 85-87 2.3L GAR TB0363
VOLVO 780 90 2.3L MIT TD04H
VOLVO 780 87-89 2.3L MIT TD05
VOLVO 940 91-93 2.3L MIT TD04H
VOLVO 200 Watercooled Upgrade 82-84 2.3L GAR TB0368
VOLVO 740 (Oil Cooled) 83-85 2.3L GAR TB0326
VOLVO 740 (Watercooled) 85-87 2.3L GAR TB0363
VOLVO 760 (Oil Cooled) 83-86 2.3L GAR TB0326
VOLVO 760 (Watercooled) 85-87 2.3L GAR TB0363

VW Passat, 97+ (oil) 1.8L GAR GT15

GAR=Garrett=AiResearch, MHI=Mitsubishi Heavy industries, MIT=Mitsubishi

thanks for the sweet post samnavy.

after reading through the whole list i just got more confused and now dont wanna go through the hassle of searching unless someone would recommend one of the turbos from one of the junkyard cars listed up there, but if anything i dont mind buying a t3 turbo somewhere online thats good for my needs, looking to make minimum of 200rwhp, i mainly want the quick responsive feel, power isnt everything

I'm starting out with a T25 off of an SR20DET. It's been done lots of times and there are tons of SR20 guys getting rid of their T25's for cheap when they upgrade. It got mine for $50 locally from a guy including a cracked manifold. Just an idea.

90% of those cars on that list aren't in junkyards anymore. I'd go for a mid-late 90s saab for a t25, they are all standard for 2" inlet, t2 exhaust flange, and use a exhaust style flange exhaust outlet. They are also usually still working and are reasonably modern. I guess you could take one of their exhaust housings and fit a 2G DSM turbo setup in for a slightly different t25, but I wouldn't even consider most of that list anymore due to it having special flanges or other stupid OEM shit going on.


VOLVO 780 85-87 2.3L GAR TB0363 hahah are they serious they only sold like 100 of those in the US

Try closer to 260-280whp with the .60 a/r

VOLVO 780 85-87 2.3L GAR TB0363 hahah are they serious they only sold like 100 of those in the US[/QUOTE]

I actually have one of those turbos on the shelf.

and if you find a bmw 324/524 td in the junk yard with good parts on it an e30 guy will give u enough for the turbo and manifold to pay for a much nicer turbo.

to not create new thread i will post here
i have smoking T25 turbo from CA18DET who needs repair if i want to use it but repair here costs about 400$
i think that is too expensive so i have idea to find and buy some junkyard turbo in normal condition
so the question is:
what turbo uses saab 9000 (year 93 and 94) ?
is it smaller or bigger compared to my T25 from ca18 ?
my goals is ~170-180whp on 1.8 miata

+1 on the ford T3's. Also look for Merkur's wich had the same turbos. If the turbo thunderbird has an intercooler you don't want that one as it's an IHI and much smaller.

Perfect example of when it's correct to dig up an old thread... nice job!

I can bet the turbo from those Saabs is bigger than from the CA18det. But what's more important is if the turbine/DP flange is compatible with what you've currently got. Almost all the Nissan T25's use "STANDARD T2" flanged turbos. No T3 will fit, and quite a few other OEM T25's use a proprietary flange (like DSM's), or the bolt pattern is off.

$400 is absurd to rebuild a journal bearing turbo... even with a full balance job. If the wheels are good, and it's just leaking a little, you can buy a rebuild kit from a website called G-Pop Shop ($80) and rebuild it yourself with a few basic handtools and a dental pick.

X2 I watched the SR20 forums until I saw a T25 come up for sale. Picked up a low milage red top T25 for $100. No shaft play, didn't need a rebuild, and came with all the plumbing. Which I butchered the lines to work on the Miata :D

+2 on that turbo!
It's a t3 with stage1 turbine and 60 trim compressor.
It exists in .48/.60 or .63/.60 A/r.


I have the .48/.60 on my 1.9L bimmer and it's really nice for a DD even at 8psi, with lower lag than I expected and always in boost when needed, at the same time having a bit of space for future improvements (raise the boost)

this one is the turbo I'm speaking about:
MustangForums.com - View Single Post - A few questions about a 2.3t swap.

IIRC there is someone with this turbo in the build section of this site ;)

everyone who's cool puts a 60 trim T3 on their 1.6L.

http://www.boostedmiata.com/dynos/12in_IC_vs_18in.jpg

Ever think of a chinacharger? Something like this perhaps?: GT25 Turbo Turbocharger T25 240SX CA18 KA24 Civic Miata:eBay Motors (item 190335568624 end time Oct-16-09 16:00:17 PDT)

He can get a decent used Garrett for less.

Sam, you are the man!I already have my Saab turbo, but that post of the list is shit!Its guys like youy that can make this site fun.
-G-

The Volvo turbos are not bad and are relatively easy to find (at least in my experience). Buddy of mine drives a 760 Turbo and we see them all the time when we're shopping in parts yards.

hey good luck with your turbo setup. I have a t25 manifold and downpipe. Im happy with it as there are many different options for it. If you need any help deciding just ask. Also i have a t25 off of a 300zx twin turbo i would get rid of(ceramic coated and powdercoated, freshly rebuilt)

my lord noob post whoring^^^^^ lolol

Are you trying to get banned? Post whoring, especially trying to sell parts outside the selling section, is deeply frowned upon.

Not wanting to create a new thread but this is the closest one to the answer i need. From what iv read on other threads, T25's are not that great.

So my question is. Why not use a DSM 14b? Their just as plentiful (at least in my area) as a t25 is. Do they not use the standard t2/t3 flange?

My plan was to pick up a 14b from a buddy but not sure it would bolt up correctly on the exhaust side. I have no means of keeping this small turbo for long so being able to upgrade without replacing my downpipe is pretty important.

That's one of the benifits of using the T25 (from the SR20DET). It's outline interchangeable with the Garrett GT25 series turbos so future upgrades are a breeze. I'm really enjoying my T25 so far and you can't beat $50.

Well i know i can get either turbo for about 40 bucks. But they are both still dsm turbo's. Guess it wouldnt matter with the t25. Should probably stick with it if im going to follow any kind of upgrade path.

Thanks for the input.

Ok people... I finally have a manifold for my 1.6. :noob:

It says it takes a T3. ( ? )

I'm not looking for a lot of power at least at first because the rear and clutch are OEM

What turbo numbers do I look for ?

What cars in existence will have a suitable turbo ?

What about places offering refurbished turbo chargers ?

Last, What about the China Charger from BEGI ?

Thanks

Just went with a good hybrid setup I came up with a conjunction of Nissan and Saab turbos. 60 trim compressor housing and wheel off a Nissan T3, and stage 1 turbine off a Saab turbo...makes for a good street turbo, with a good power range I have heard 250-260hp range I believe, somebody correct me if im wrong...

Or you could go with a Saab/Volvo turbo like the 45 trims, .42/.48AR they are Garrett T3s and spool VERY quick. Easy to find cheap too.

Better hit them junkyards if you're looking for Garrett standard T3s...

just buy the ebay 50 trim t3.

Thanks guys!!!

+1

Any Flea bay vendors you guys had better luck with than others ?

Also- What do you actually end up paying to ship to the states? I saw a T3 for $90.00 !!!! I assume they make you pay Import duty or something……. :jerkit:

Cheers!!

mine was $175 shipped. I sent it to Begi for them to port the wastegate for me.

You must make sure you get the t3 50 trim. not a t3/t4 71mm compressor.

a 60mm compressor.


import duty? who are you?

Will do - Thanks :bowrofl:

This is as close as I have gotten. Do you remember what vendor you got yours from ????

T3/T4 Trubo Charger With Internal Wastegate.
INLET: 3"
OUTLET: 2"
BEARING TYPE: WET FLOAT EARINGS
OIL INLET: 1/8 NPT
MAX PSI CAPACITY: 20 PSI
COMPRESSOR: .50 AR COMPRESSOR
TURBINE: .63 AR TURBINE
COMPRESSOR WHEEL: .57 T COMPRESSOR WHEEL
EXDUCER: 3"
INDUCER: 2"
TURBINE WHEEL: .63 AR TURBINE WHEEL
EXDUCER: 2.2"
INDUCER: 2.58"
FLANGE TYPE: STANDARD T3 FLANGE (4 Bolt Inlet Flange)
DOWN PIPE FLANGE TYPE: 5 BOLT STANDARD

Any one know about the subaru wrx turbos? my buddy said hed sell me his for 50 bucks, all nice very low miles but its got a crazy exhaust flange and id rather stay away form that unless it is a killer turbo. Also everyone is talking about not wanting to go with a 14b due to restrictions when it comes to upgrading, this is false. I used to own a dsm and you can get a turbo big or small enough to do whatever you want with that dsm flange. Check out slowboyracing.com. also you could get lucky and score a 20g off a mitsu box truck if u got a truck yard around.

remove -posted in error.

I ran 2 19Ts in my Stealth and put down a little over 500awhp. We had to machine the stock 9b exhaust housings for the 19t chras. Not as much flow as the TD05 housings and I deff wasnt able to see the stupid numbers the evo III 16g guys were getting, but my power was much smoother.

http://www.stealth316.com/images/td04h-19t-cfm.gif
http://www.stealth316.com/images/td05h-14b-cfm.gif

Tons of great info:
http://www.stealth316.com/2-turboguide.htm#im
http://www.stealth316.com/2-3s-compflowmaps.htm

the best junkyard turbo is the SR20 T25.

Just a tidbit of information concerning the list on page 1...

It lists that it was the Mustang GT that had the turbo that is incorrect. Mustang GT's have ALWAYS had V8's. The turbo mustangs were called SVO's and shared the funky bi-level wing of the merkurs.

GT (notice the normal little lip on the back):

http://www.mustanggt.org/canadiangt/1985cobras1.jpg

Mustang SVO, bi-level wing (also has a hood scoop):

http://image.mustangmonthly.com/f/14...ng_compact.jpg

If you're looking for the T3 with the .60 A/R turbine housing, you can find them on the following cars:

'84 - '86 T-Bird Turbocoupe (manual trans, I believe auto as well)
'85-'89 Merkur XR4Ti (MANUAL ONLY, the Auto had a .48 A/R turbine housing)
ANY Mustang SVO.

You'd never guess I used to have two Merkur XR4Ti's, one of which had a mustang T5 tranny swap, custom intercooler setup utilizing a saab radiator and an ebay I/C, larger SVO vane air meter, and a big fat turbonetics T3/T4 :bigtu:

I happen to have a couple of these Merkur turbos laying around... If I'm ever able to free up some dough, that's the one that'll end up on the Miata.