Reputable Chinese Turbo Sellers (oxymoron? lol)
06-01-2018, 03:57 PM
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https://www.ebay.com/usr/dptmotorspo...72.m2749.l2754
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06-01-2018, 03:59 PM
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Specifics and Features:
- Boost engine horse power significantly
- Increase engine power and torque outpout
- Maintain combustion chamber pressure and fuel/air load
- Contructed with high quality material
- Built for durability and strength
- Dual ball bearing mechanism
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06-01-2018, 04:03 PM
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I'm afraid of coutless stupid threads where n00bs circle jerk about janky parts and determine the "proven knockoff chinese parts" which in itself is an oxymoron.
I actually didn't think this thread was stupid until you mentioned buying a garrett from the 80's for a whopping 300 in savings.
This is one of the VERY LAST sites on the planet that refuses to blow smoke up your butt and make you feel good about bad decisions
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I actually didn't think this thread was stupid until you mentioned buying a garrett from the 80's for a whopping 300 in savings.
This is one of the VERY LAST sites on the planet that refuses to blow smoke up your butt and make you feel good about bad decisions
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06-01-2018, 04:05 PM
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This is a great thread to mention the fact that Chinese turbos routinely underperform their legitimate counterparts by several hundred RPM in spool and mid-range power. You get what you pay for. I would never, ever use one, even if I were on a budget. Find a used journal bearing T25 or an SR20 GT2560R. Same cost, better quality, better performance.
Use garbage if you wish, but don't delude yourself into thinking it is "the same".
Use garbage if you wish, but don't delude yourself into thinking it is "the same".
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06-01-2018, 04:06 PM
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Sure, try one. They all come from the same place. In terms of QUALITY, i don't think there's a difference between the $79.99 special and the $350 one ISR or whomever sells. ISR just probably sells enough that they get the same specs every time. At least within shitty turbo tolerances.
My ONE suggestion is that IF you try one of these, make SURE it shares dimensions/patterns with a legit Garrett T25, so that when you get sick of this experiment, you don't have to re-design your high school science project to play with the adults.
My ONE suggestion is that IF you try one of these, make SURE it shares dimensions/patterns with a legit Garrett T25, so that when you get sick of this experiment, you don't have to re-design your high school science project to play with the adults.
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06-01-2018, 04:10 PM
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Nothing wrong with the GT2560R its a good turbo. Its not the newest tech but it still performs well. If its not BB its not a GT2560R, it would just be called a T28 at that point. The 2560R specifically is the ball bearing variant of the T28
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06-01-2018, 04:13 PM
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I know there are better performing kits, but if I buy a kit it's going to be from FM for product development, and customer service. Their kits seem tried and true and there is TONS of documentation for a noob like me. I know a newer Borge Warner setup would be far superior, but lets face it, im going to run a stock motor and hopefully make 220-250whp at the end of the day. Why spend more money than I have to?
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06-01-2018, 04:14 PM
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I ran the 2560r for almost 2 years, spool was quick and made good power. no complaints.
I recently sold this setup and went with an EFR6258 setup, as i wanted a bit more power, and a bit better response. but really no complaints about a gt2560r.
The 2560r originated in the Japanese 240sx s14 and s15 cars. the s14 variant is i believe single ball bearing and s15 is dual ball bearing.
The turbo i had was the s14 variant and ran great. zero complaints about spool or power.
if buying used, i would get a used s14 or s15 2560r over a junk journal bearing china crap.
If buying new, i would never spend $900 on a 30 year old turbo, epsecially when the latest and greatest efr is only a few hundred more.
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06-01-2018, 04:25 PM
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2560r is a great turbo for a miata, yes its a 30 year old design, but its sized correctly and works great on a miata. its sweet spot is around 250hp. with great spool and response.
I ran the 2560r for almost 2 years, spool was quick and made good power. no complaints.
I recently sold this setup and went with an EFR6258 setup, as i wanted a bit more power, and a bit better response. but really no complaints about a gt2560r.
The 2560r originated in the Japanese 240sx s14 and s15 cars. the s14 variant is i believe single ball bearing and s15 is dual ball bearing.
The turbo i had was the s14 variant and ran great. zero complaints about spool or power.
if buying used, i would get a used s14 or s15 2560r over a junk journal bearing china crap.
If buying new, i would never spend $900 on a 30 year old turbo, epsecially when the latest and greatest efr is only a few hundred more.
I ran the 2560r for almost 2 years, spool was quick and made good power. no complaints.
I recently sold this setup and went with an EFR6258 setup, as i wanted a bit more power, and a bit better response. but really no complaints about a gt2560r.
The 2560r originated in the Japanese 240sx s14 and s15 cars. the s14 variant is i believe single ball bearing and s15 is dual ball bearing.
The turbo i had was the s14 variant and ran great. zero complaints about spool or power.
if buying used, i would get a used s14 or s15 2560r over a junk journal bearing china crap.
If buying new, i would never spend $900 on a 30 year old turbo, epsecially when the latest and greatest efr is only a few hundred more.
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06-01-2018, 05:00 PM
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I personally went with Kraken, great quality manifold and downpipe, only issue is his EFR 3" downpipe is open ended, so you need to have an exhaust shop weld a flange and mate it up to the rest of your exhaust.
If you want to go with a T25 2560r setup, i strongly recommend Kraken manifold/downpipe/oil/water lines combo, its affordable, great quality and will bolt up to your normal exhaust. and you can upgrade it to an EFR later down the road by getting a new EFR downpipe from Kraken, the manifold is the same..
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06-01-2018, 05:10 PM
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EDIT: Borka pretty much said it.
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06-01-2018, 09:38 PM
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Not every one needs a EFR turbo is very correct, so;
My recommended solid and budget setup is:
Kraken manifold/downpipe and oil/water lines: ~$800
Used Garrett s14 t28 (2560r) turbo ~$300-400
Megasquirt 2 or 3: $550-1000
FlowForce 640cc injectors: $300
Ebay intercooler, pipes and BOV: $200
so about $2.5-3K for a good and reliable setup.
Can a setup be hacked together with shitty parts for cheaper? yes, but it wont perform good, nor be reliable.
My recommended solid and budget setup is:
Kraken manifold/downpipe and oil/water lines: ~$800
Used Garrett s14 t28 (2560r) turbo ~$300-400
Megasquirt 2 or 3: $550-1000
FlowForce 640cc injectors: $300
Ebay intercooler, pipes and BOV: $200
so about $2.5-3K for a good and reliable setup.
Can a setup be hacked together with shitty parts for cheaper? yes, but it wont perform good, nor be reliable.
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