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mx594m 01-16-2012 04:35 PM


Originally Posted by Reverant (Post 820931)
I've tuned a car that has the blue "525cc" injectors. I can tell you right here and now, I wouldn't tune a car with these again.

by the looks of the injector disc, these are EV6s;
have you had any experience [good/bad] with EV14s?

Reverant 01-17-2012 01:38 AM

I've had excellent results so far with the following EV14 injectors:

- 445cc (FIC)
- 650cc (FIC, fiveomotorsports)
- 850cc (fiveomotorsports)
- 1150cc (FIC)

I do not like this EV14 injector:

- 775cc (FIC, rough idle at 14.7, compared to even the 850cc. Tested on two cars, 1.6 NB and 1.8 NB2. 1.6 was running at 43psi, 1.8 was running at 60psi. Both showed exactly the same results.)

18psi 01-17-2012 01:50 AM

ID1000's>all

Reverant 01-17-2012 02:12 AM

I can't see how the ID1000 will be better than say, the FIC 1150.

18psi 01-17-2012 02:21 AM

I havent tried fic but you're probably right.
Both are top quality

Techsalvager 01-17-2012 09:41 AM


Originally Posted by mx594m (Post 821160)
by the looks of the injector disc, these are EV6s;
have you had any experience [good/bad] with EV14s?

the rx8 injectors aren't ev6s they are some type of denso fuel injectors.

yan816 01-17-2012 12:07 PM

The RX8 injectors Denso part number is195500 4460 and are rated at 540cc@3bar. From what Reverant says, I'm not sure if I should sell them on and get some others type. I thought that they may have been on par with the yellow tops when it came to spray pattern etc..

thirdgen 01-17-2012 12:22 PM

I have a set of yellow tops, hint hint. The funny thing is, they are the same in physical size as your 540's, and also the same as a '99 miata injector. A genuine mazda injector part number is always "195500" followed by 4 numbers. 4450 is RX8 425cc's, and apparently the 4460 is a 540cc. I also believe that fuel pressure affects spray pattern, so maybe Reverant's tuning issue was also fuel pressure related?

18psi 01-17-2012 12:23 PM

You know the saying "you get what you pay for" is very very often accurate and true.
Most quality parts don't cost less then others unless they're inferior. Some things more so than others, but an injector is not something I'd want to skimp on simply because it is in direct control of your cars health and behavior.

18psi 01-17-2012 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by thirdgen (Post 821807)
I have a set of yellow tops, hint hint. The funny thing is, they are the same in physical size as your 540's, and also the same as a '99 miata injector. A genuine mazda injector part number is always "195500" followed by 4 numbers. 4450 is RX8 425cc's, and apparently the 4460 is a 540cc. I also believe that fuel pressure affects spray pattern, so maybe Reverant's tuning issue was also fuel pressure related?

I doubt it.
Reverant is not a n00b and I'll bet this would be the 1st thing he'd check to make sure its dialed in right.

My buddy bought some crappy dsm injectors a month or two ago.
They run like absolute and utter crap.
We spent a whole night trying to dial them in. Tried every single fuel pressure setting we could possibly think of. In the end the car still hunts at idle, misfires at idle, and they are the most INCONSISTENT pieces of crap I've ever had the displeasure of tuning.

I completely agree with Reverant.

The inconsistency swings in AFR were well over 10%, which even a noob knows is WAY too much to be "ok"

yan816 01-17-2012 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by thirdgen (Post 821807)
I have a set of yellow tops, hint hint. The funny thing is, they are the same in physical size as your 540's, and also the same as a '99 miata injector. A genuine mazda injector part number is always "195500" followed by 4 numbers. 4450 is RX8 425cc's, and apparently the 4460 is a 540cc. I also believe that fuel pressure affects spray pattern, so maybe Reverant's tuning issue was also fuel pressure related?

The 4450 (425cc yellow top) are very popular here in the UK, we dont seem to have the choice you guys have, importing them can be crippling in tax and postage.

mx594m 01-17-2012 06:59 PM

is the import tax the same for "used" auto parts? hint, hint

Kramer 04-01-2014 03:41 PM


Originally Posted by mx594m (Post 822154)
is the import tax the same for "used" auto parts? hint, hint

I don't think so, at least in the European Union you don't have to pay any taxes for them. This summer i'm moving to U.K. so it will be great to know what happens there.

Reverant 04-01-2014 04:57 PM

If the declared value of the part is high, yes, you will pay import taxes.

Try to import a used laptop for example. If it is inspected, prepare to pay up, even though it is used.

Kramer 04-01-2014 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by Reverant (Post 1117244)
If the declared value of the part is high, yes, you will pay import taxes.

Try to import a used laptop for example. If it is inspected, prepare to pay up, even though it is used.


Unless you sent it like a gift, in that case I don't think that you have to pay any taxes for this good. Customs don't know if you have or not paid for the stuff purchased.

Reverant 04-01-2014 05:26 PM

The gift trick got old really quick. Even if it is a gift, the sender has a legal obligation to declare the "gift's" value. If that value is high, you get to pay the fees.

Savington 04-01-2014 07:17 PM

One of my favorite things is when people ask me to commit perjury so they can save money :)

Reverant 04-02-2014 05:20 AM

Commit perjury and tax fraud, no less.

Kramer 04-02-2014 07:24 AM

In Spain all is about tax fraud! Someone knows the price threshold when and object is subject to inspection?

I'm sorry, this post was interesting, lets talk again about RX-8 Injectors. =)

shuiend 04-02-2014 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by Kramer (Post 1117416)
In Spain all is about tax fraud! Someone knows the price threshold when and object is subject to inspection?

I'm sorry, this post was interesting, lets talk again about RX-8 Injectors. =)

It is very different when you are an individual sending a single part to a different country as a "gift" verse being a company that producers products and sends them all over the world constantly. There is a much higher cost if you get caught committing fraud as a company.


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