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SloS13 08-09-2007 07:46 PM

SloS13 build thread
 
I'm going with a DSM 14b turbo. Still have some things that need to be purchased but I'm on a tight budget so I'm buying a little here, little there. Nothing too interesting to show yet but I thought I'd share.

So far I have:
14b turbo
AEM F/IC *installed*
rx7 460cc injectors
DSM BOV
misc. piping
miata exhaust flange (salvaged from a stock header)
F1 Stage III clutch (too hot in the garage to install lol)

Got the F/IC installed and all purdy. Ran a nylon line to join up with a T for the boost gauge so I'll have a single line going through the firewall.
http://www.aemfic.com/images/turbo/fic_installed.jpg

The only 3 way I'll ever have.
http://www.aemfic.com/images/turbo/3way.jpg

http://www.aemfic.com/images/turbo/boost_gauge1.jpg

http://www.aemfic.com/images/turbo/boost_gauge2.jpg

firedog25 08-09-2007 07:50 PM

I have that pillar mount too, I had to sand out a bit to get my 52mm gauges in. I'm going to be losing that thing too as soon as I get gauges I want.

SloS13 08-09-2007 07:53 PM

It's actually left over from my S13. Doesnt fit perfect but it's good enough. If I get a bug up my ass, I'll heat it up with a heat gun and try to form it a bit better.

I really like the idea of having gauges in the vents but it's hot as balls here. I really didnt want to resort to the pillar pod but I think it's the best choice for me right now.....I think.

m2cupcar 08-10-2007 09:01 AM


Originally Posted by SloS13 (Post 138713)
...I really like the idea of having gauges in the vents but it's hot as balls here....

:werd: I won't complete/charge my a/c until the car is sorted- now that's an incentive. ;)

SloS13 08-11-2007 07:37 PM

Oh SNAAAAPPPPPPPPP. My brother mentioned he had a welder so I went to his house to pick it up today. This thing makes my harbor freight flux core look like it came out of a cracker jack box. It's old and crusty but damn does it weld. Chose some random settings and did a quick weld.

http://www.aemfic.com/images/welder1.jpg

http://www.aemfic.com/images/weld1.jpg

Dow.tom 08-11-2007 07:41 PM

ooh la la, weld my pipes!

SloS13 08-19-2007 02:54 PM

Got rid of all the EGR crap and blocked everything off

http://www.aemfic.com/images/turbo/egrgone.jpg

Waiting on my piping went ahead and made my BOV flange. Still learning the welder so I JBwelded over the weld just incase there are any leaks.

http://www.aemfic.com/images/turbo/bovflange.jpg

Here's my manifold so far. Right now it's just 2 stock 1.8L head flanges bolted together so I don't warp anything when the welding starts

http://www.aemfic.com/images/turbo/mani1.jpg

SloS13 08-21-2007 06:10 PM

Got the gauges finished up. VDO boost gauge and my new panel meter with 0.01 accuracy for the wideband display. wewt

The meter was a bit too bright so I put 2 layers of tint in there. I also heated up the gauge pod so I cold mold in the panel a bit.

Just dropped off a loaner flywheel at the machine shop too.

http://www.aemfic.com/images/turbo/gauges1.jpg

Braineack 08-21-2007 07:20 PM

you couldnt just find a round voltmeter? :gay:

miatamania 08-21-2007 07:31 PM

I want a welder...I'd like to know how to weld too lol.

SloS13 08-21-2007 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 142207)
you couldnt just find a round voltmeter? :gay:

that is a good ass question. not sure I could find one that's for 1-2v but if I knew anything about electronics I could probably put some resistors or some shit on it and make it work. Doin shit the hard way is my style anyways :bigtu:

hey miatamania. You're not that far from me. I might be up in Boone during labor day weekend with teh in-laws.

y8s 08-21-2007 09:07 PM

turn up the heat on that welder for those welds!

not sure jb will last under that heat btw...

SloS13 08-21-2007 09:12 PM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 142236)
turn up the heat on that welder for those welds!

not sure jb will last under that heat btw...

tru.dat I had the heat too low. the JB is just to plug up any possible pin holes. Because of the lack of heat I was laying a slug instead of a bead. The JB will hold up just fine ;)

I need to find some pics of my old FMIC that was held together with JB..hmmm

StankCheeze 08-25-2007 04:38 PM

This build has ghetto written all over it. Just my style :bigtu:

SloS13 08-25-2007 08:49 PM


Originally Posted by StankCheeze (Post 143437)
This build has ghetto written all over it. Just my style :bigtu:

you know how I roll :cool:

SloS13 08-27-2007 07:33 PM

Got my manifold bits in so I started fabbing. Figure it'll take about 3-4 2hr sessions. Yeah I'm slow. Ordered some oil lines today. I got everything I need now except post-turbo exhaust parts. I'll order them with my next check which will all I need. Ordering is the easy part. Fabbing and tuning = teh hard shits. Took me a while to get some settings right. The GLOB of weld is ugly yet functional.

So far....
http://www.aemfic.com/images/turbo/manifold1.jpg

http://www.aemfic.com/images/turbo/manifoldweld.jpg

Using a piece from the stock manifold's collector to connect manifold to turbo. Still needs a bit of work before welding.
http://www.aemfic.com/images/turbo/collector.jpg

SloS13 08-28-2007 06:28 PM

it's beautiful (to me)

http://www.aemfic.com/images/turbo/manifold2.jpg

Fireindc 08-28-2007 11:05 PM

dopeness, ghetto builds ftw

SloS13 08-31-2007 05:36 PM

Got my HUGE fmic today

http://www.aemfic.com/images/huge_fmic.jpg

SloS13 09-03-2007 05:27 PM

some progress.

http://www.aemfic.com/images/turbo/fmicin1.jpg

http://www.aemfic.com/images/turbo/fmicin2.jpg

http://www.aemfic.com/images/turbo/fmicin3.jpg

magnamx-5 09-03-2007 05:31 PM


Originally Posted by SloS13 (Post 144525)

How is that gonna spool a turbo :rofl: no opening.

SloS13 09-03-2007 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by magnamx-5 (Post 146468)
How is that gonna spool a turbo :rofl: no opening.

ooohhhh, you mean the turbo is supposed to hook up to THAT part? :confused:

Then what's the boost gauge going to hook up to?

I hope nobody shit on MY coat.

cjernigan 09-03-2007 05:52 PM

Might be better off flipping that IC upside down from how you have it now and using two 90* couplers right off that inlet/outlet to hook those pipes up.

SloS13 09-03-2007 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by cjernigan (Post 146474)
Might be better off flipping that IC upside down from how you have it now and using two 90* couplers right off that inlet/outlet to hook those pipes up.

Well I was intending on just doing the hot side "over-the-top" because the AC dryer is in the way of doing the same for the cold-side. When i feel like gettin dirty again I'll check out that possibility tho

cjernigan 09-03-2007 06:55 PM

Ah, makes sense now. I think somepeople bend that dryer out of the way, no idea how easy or possible that is in your situation though.

sweetmeatz 09-04-2007 12:10 AM

have u did any thing with the MAF map yet ??... iv been to busy with work to get it working right with the NB...

Splitime 09-04-2007 12:25 AM

If the welds hold, who cares how they look. DIY = :)

SloS13 09-04-2007 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by sweetmeatz (Post 146594)
have u did any thing with the MAF map yet ??... iv been to busy with work to get it working right with the NB...

nope unfortunatly havent had time. I did think of one thing though and anybody correct me if I'm wrong: In order to do a proper MAF emulation via the MAP sensor, at first I'm gonna have to boost the car with the MAF hooked up (recirculated BOV too) and drive the snot out of it in every sort of condition imagineable (uphill, downhill, slow, fast, city, highway) to get the data I'll need. At which point, I can plug those datalogged values in for the MAF map. In addition, i'll need to make some educated guesses on the areas outside my proposed boost limit and fill those in (just in case I get a boost spike, etc).

Then I can go MAP and atmospheric BOV.

I've pretty much decided my car isnt leaving the garage until a turbo is strapped to it unless my other car takes a dump or something.

SloS13 09-07-2007 07:14 PM

http://www.aemfic.com/images/turbo/bay1.jpg

http://www.aemfic.com/images/turbo/coldpipe2.jpg

http://www.aemfic.com/images/turbo/manifold3.jpg

cjernigan 09-07-2007 07:18 PM

Mmmm pie cuts.

SloS13 09-07-2007 07:24 PM


Originally Posted by cjernigan (Post 148095)
Mmmm pie cuts.

Yeah got a little carried away. Probably could have done it with a 90 and a single pie cut but you can never have just 1 slice. :gay:

magnamx-5 09-07-2007 09:33 PM

I like pie very nice bud :D

SloS13 09-11-2007 10:26 AM

Did some more work on the hot-pipe, still gotta make a few more cuts/welds for it.

The cold pipe is now going into the engine bay, so it's 1/2 done.

Did the dual feed fuel rail.

Installed injectors

Got oil return done

removed all stock exhaust.

So my list of things to do is shortening:
1. get some fittings to do the feed line
2. Figure out where the turbo is gonna go and finish the manifold
3. Get a GTX PCV valve
4. Make downpipe and exhaust
5. Make Intake
6. Finish hot and cold pipes.
7. Tune.

SloS13 09-19-2007 07:02 PM

Woot. Gettin closer :)

http://www.aemfic.com/images/turbo/turbomounted.jpg

SloS13 09-20-2007 08:26 PM

Makita chopsaw is my friend
http://www.aemfic.com/images/turbo/progress1.jpg

Coldpipe - DONE (except for BOV flange)
http://www.aemfic.com/images/turbo/progress2.jpg

Coldpipe
http://www.aemfic.com/images/turbo/progress3.jpg

Hotpipe is done except for some possible leaks and IACV port
http://www.aemfic.com/images/turbo/progress4.jpg

Muffla
http://www.aemfic.com/images/turbo/progress5.jpg

New injectors
http://www.aemfic.com/images/turbo/progress6.jpg

Dual feed fuel rail
http://www.aemfic.com/images/turbo/progress7.jpg

Box of shit
http://www.aemfic.com/images/turbo/progress8.jpg

My world
http://www.aemfic.com/images/turbo/progress9.jpg
http://www.aemfic.com/images/turbo/progress10.jpg
http://www.aemfic.com/images/turbo/progress11.jpg

cjernigan 09-20-2007 08:48 PM

You have them backwards, hotside is from the turbo, coldside is from the throttle body. It looks like functional DIY good stuff. I envy your shop. Things would be so much nicer to just be able to have a floor jack instead of a scissor POS for example. Let alone a welder, chop saw, and enough room to string my shit from hell to high water.

SloS13 09-20-2007 09:09 PM

hahahah goddamnit. I knew that i'm just retarded. Yeah I looove having a garage and room to work. My wife has been a trooper and has been parking her car outside for the past 5 weeks so I'd have room to work. The red MIG is technically my brothers but i'm borrowing indefinitely.

The chop-saw I got for $65 at an estate sale. The floorjack was like $30 at wal-mart.

My first evar turbo install was done behind a muffler shop over 2 weeks in the freezing ass cold.

Second turbo install was done at a friend's apartment complex parking space. Third was done at my previous apartment's parking space which was for some reason half sand and mud. I've done a few friends' turbo kits in their apartment parking spaces.

Fourth and now fifth are done in my garage. Before the garage the only power tools I owned was a corded drill and a dremel.

cjernigan 09-20-2007 09:31 PM

I borrow my roommates cordless drill, use my dremel, otherwise a scissor jack, ramps, and a set of metric wrenches get me through the day. I'm fortunate to have a sloped paved parking spot. No dirt and clay for me.

mazda/nissan 09-20-2007 10:16 PM

can i have your box of shit? one mans trash is anothers treasure... what is that hose going through the firewall from the turbo?

SloS13 09-20-2007 11:25 PM

by shit I didnt mean like worthless shit. I never throw away ANYTHING. Never know when you might need something. Hey you're right down the road from me (columbia). Howdy neighbor!

m2cupcar 09-21-2007 11:29 AM

SloS13 with a welder = armed and dangerous... no metal is safe :D
Makin' progress- so your hot side pipe requires cutting out the hood support/framework right?

yadayada 09-21-2007 11:53 AM

Your going to burn up the bushings with the turbo mounted like that, unless you have stupid amounts of oil pressure

SloS13 09-21-2007 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by yadayada (Post 153724)
Your going to burn up the bushings with the turbo mounted like that, unless you have stupid amounts of oil pressure

how do you mean? I've never heard of a CHRA caring about its orientation other than the oil return having to point downwards or thereabouts. I havent yet rotated the CHRA. Is that what you're referring to?

Saml01 09-21-2007 01:44 PM

Heres a question, how much space is available for the pipes when doing a over the radiator style installation?

SloS13 09-21-2007 02:00 PM

not a heck of a lot. I had to cut part of my hood skin up and screwed my paint up in the process (caused 2 bubbles on top of hood) ARGHGHG. I used an angle grinder when I should have used a dremel.

I'll try to take some better pics of that.

mazda/nissan 09-21-2007 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by SloS13 (Post 153569)
by shit I didnt mean like worthless shit. I never throw away ANYTHING. Never know when you might need something. Hey you're right down the road from me (columbia). Howdy neighbor!

well i knew it wasn't worthless thats why i wanted it :bigtu: i have to go to columbia nearly evereday for classes but have only ever seen one mariner miata parked on main st all the time. Nvm about the hose with the thermal wrap, it looked like it was entering your turbo but then i saw that it goes behind it. Any plans on bracing the manifold or no?

SloS13 09-21-2007 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by mazda/nissan (Post 153798)
well i knew it wasn't worthless thats why i wanted it :bigtu: i have to go to columbia nearly evereday for classes but have only ever seen one mariner miata parked on main st all the time. Nvm about the hose with the thermal wrap, it looked like it was entering your turbo but then i saw that it goes behind it. Any plans on bracing the manifold or no?

LAWL I see that mariner all the time too. Mine's Montego and (when its not in the garage) is parked at Laurel St. & Marion St.

I've cut some stock to use for bracing but im not really sure if I need it. The downside to bracing would be that it would be more of a pain in the ass to tighten/loosen the turbo from the manifold b/c the braces would be in the way of the wrench to an extent. I will probably re-consider it before I do the final tightening on everything.

SloS13 09-22-2007 06:49 PM

Got some more work on the downpipe done. Should be working on the exhaust tomorrow.

intake done except for welding
http://www.aemfic.com/images/turbo/progress2b.jpg

Oil feed wasnt nearly as difficult as I thought it'd be
http://www.aemfic.com/images/turbo/progress2a.jpg

SloS13 09-23-2007 07:26 PM

Got the downpipe tacked up

http://www.aemfic.com/images/turbo/dptacked.jpg

mazda/nissan 09-23-2007 07:33 PM

nice looking dp, keep up the good work

cjernigan 09-23-2007 07:41 PM

DP looks good tacked up, gonna be crazy once you get done with it though :)

SloS13 09-23-2007 07:47 PM

I *might* try and run a separate dump tube. Havent quite decided yet but I gotta get this shit on the road by Friday.

mikeflys1 09-23-2007 10:08 PM

Very sexy....im kinda curious to see how well the FIC works.

SloS13 09-24-2007 08:12 PM

Small, pictureless update:

Tonite I worked on the exhaust. Got the downpipe 90% welded up and started on the rear section (flange, flex-pipe, first muffler, straight pipe). It's a bit crooked so I'm gonna have to cut it and re-do a bit, no biggie. Gonna fab up a bracket that connects the DP to the transmission to keep the weight of some of the exhaust off of it. Thats gonna be a bitch but I've made up my mind i'm gonna do it....well at least eventually. ;)

Got my hot and cold pipes smoothed out some, added an IACV hookup for the cold pipe made out of some old bicycle handlebars LOL.

Painted both the pipes then I remembered I forgot to put on the BOV flange. gosh deng. So I gotta sand some paint off and find a good spot for it.

akaryrye 01-04-2009 12:47 PM

where did all the pictures go?

SloS13 01-04-2009 02:51 PM

ah shit. I think my domain expired or some shit. :(

urgaynknowit 01-04-2009 09:02 PM

lol, better post them again, pics or it didnt happen

thesnowboarder 01-04-2009 09:11 PM

in for pics

18psi 01-04-2009 09:13 PM


Originally Posted by SloS13 (Post 348723)
ah shit. I think my domain expired or some shit. :(

damn it, and here I am trying to figure out why the hell the pics are not showing up on my computer:vash::giggle:

SloS13 01-04-2009 09:59 PM

shitballs. I can't edit my posts to change the pics' domain :(


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