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Old 03-28-2010, 02:55 PM   #1
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Default So I'm going to take the plunge.....AGAIN lol

So as of this next week I'm going 30r + e85.

Want to completely redo my setup. This time around here is what I'm looking for:

COMPLETELY street car. No auto-x, no road race, don't give a **** about "cornering" or any of that ****, just want a car with a big turbo and a NASTY topend.

What my plans are:
ABSURDflow style diy manifold with bottom mounted turbo
30r or something similar with a big backhousing, thinking .86
3" exhaust
bigger bar/plate intercooler
700+cc injectors
pump/lines/etc to make e85 work in this bitch




Anything I'm forgetting?
Any input, opinions, etc?

PS: if you're going to say that its too big, or will suck, or any of that ****, know this: I JUST got a ride in a 97 miata with a 30r on pump gas. Even on pump gas I LOOOOOOVED the way the car felt and don't think its too laggy at all, and WANT that kind of powerband.

Partout thread for current parts soon to come
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i say go for it!!!

when you say ABSURDflow style mani ( your going bottom mount?)
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i say go for it!!!

when you say ABSURDflow style mani ( your going bottom mount?)
+1. Would love to check it out when you are done. I am somewhat local.
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Why 700 cc injectors?

A bigger pump with 550 ccs will take you a long way towards your goals
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Yes I do want to make it bottom mount. Don't know if it will fit or how it will work out with ps/ac but I'll see what I can do. I've seen others do it and if I absolutely NEED TO I will take out a/c or p/s.
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Why 700 cc injectors?

A bigger pump with 550 ccs will take you a long way towards your goals
on e85? You have to inject roughly 30% more of the stuff and need BIGGG injectors from what I've seen/heard
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Yes I do want to make it bottom mount. Don't know if it will fit or how it will work out with ps/ac but I'll see what I can do. I've seen others do it and if I absolutely NEED TO I will take out a/c or p/s.
you could go low top mount like the supra guys do!

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on e85? You have to inject roughly 30% more of the stuff and need BIGGG injectors from what I've seen/heard
your right 18psi! if im not mistaken a few friends of mine that are running 550's with upgraded fuel pumps are almost maxing out there injectors at close to 300 rwhp with there set ups! when i have heard alot of people discussing the E85 supject thats one of the main topic's of the discussion (needing the bigger injectors for the increased flow an consumption)
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Yes I do want to make it bottom mount. Don't know if it will fit or how it will work out with ps/ac but I'll see what I can do. I've seen others do it and if I absolutely NEED TO I will take out a/c or p/s.
TurboTim has made the ABSURDflow setup with a/c&ps and since you have good fabrication skills you should be able to do it.

I thought for a long time about ditching my a/c but when I get stuck in traffic.....I am soooo glad I have it.
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True. Me too, I love my a/c.

However with the recent purchase of my Kawi Ninja the miata is not a daily driver anymore. So I don't have to worry about rush hour traffic nearly as much
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Damn, and I thought I had ADD
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True. Me too, I love my a/c.

However with the recent purchase of my Kawi Ninja the miata is not a daily driver anymore. So I don't have to worry about rush hour traffic nearly as much
screw it then! WEIGHT SAVINGS!
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im a little retarded... what is the benefit of E85? I have heard smalll talk here and there, and I am not even sure if there is a pump in reno for that crap...
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im a little retarded... what is the benefit of E85? I have heard smalll talk here and there, and I am not even sure if there is a pump in reno for that crap...
its like the = to 110 octane i belive!
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I have recently seen some INSANE **** with e85 that changed my whole outlook of it.

Guys running subaru's on our SHITTY *** camel **** 91oct only get about 300whp before it starts to knock and you're done increasing power. They throw in e85 and gain another 50-60whp (I **** YOU NOT) and they're not even getting CLOSE to knocking.

I wouldn't believe it myself, but from the many cars I've seen do this exact thing the past couple weeks I'm sold..

I was literally standing there watching a guy retune on e85, spike the timing to almost double that on 91oct and the car doesn't even begin to knock. Not 1 guy, not 2, but a whole group of people I've been watching switch to e85, gain big power, and run fine. ON STOCK INTERNALS..


The norm quarter mile time/trap for a STi with bolt ons and good tune around here is 12.5-12.9 @ 105-109. Everyone I've seen switch to e85 is running low 12's at 117-119.
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Start thinking about some big injectors, 1600cc would be a good starting point.
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Really? Holy **** I knew I'd need to go big but didn't know THAT big

I was thinking some 700-800cc's should be good for around 300-350 on a 30r. Am I wrong?
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holy **** really?! I know it eats through ****, but what exactly does it take to make the fuel system handle that? That sounds like an investment to me, because 100 octane at VP Racing here is like $8/gal.

Also, if you do make it E85 compatable, can you still use the shitty fuels just in case? I am getting stoked by your idea man!


EDIT: did some quick google searches.... and found out the only E85 pump in reno is goverment access only... FML.
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if you do it the correct way, yes with a flex fuel controller if im not mistaken. the cars that say flex fuel on them i believe can go back and forth between them!
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Really? Holy **** I knew I'd need to go big but didn't know THAT big

I was thinking some 700-800cc's should be good for around 300-350 on a 30r. Am I wrong?
i think you should be fine with 1000cc

a buddy of mine drives an evo mr and i think he said he would only need 1200cc inj. for the conversion!
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