Tapping Oil/Water Ports on VVT Block
Has anyone attempted to tap the oil/water bosses (where the NA's have tapped holes) while the block is at the machine shop?
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I believe JoeP had a thread about it several years ago and for oil the decision was made that it would be next to impossible to do correctly. Searching should find the thread.
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Correct and correct.
Also we discussed it at least twice afterward. But you should attempt to do it and report back, OP. |
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Originally Posted by 18psi
(Post 1176858)
Correct and correct.
Also we discussed it at least twice afterward. But you should attempt to do it and report back, OP. So chill. :D Water is easy- you're just going through a few mm of metal into an open jacket. Oil would be next to impossible to do correctly. The casting is still there, but they passage to feed it is missing in the later blocks. You'd have to drill a very narrow passage several inches through solid iron to hit the passage which feeds the rear main bearing all the way on the other side of the block. Deviate by just a degree or two and the block is trash. I'd attempt it only if I had a CNC milling machine to make the cut with. As I said, the original image is long gone, but I managed to find a very low-quality preview cached in Google Images. Here's the problem: https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...1&d=1413767318 While searching for that, I also came across am image of my dog taken while she was in the process of dying: https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...1&d=1413767318 |
just turn the boost up and vent a passage out naturally
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Does anyone know the thread pitch on the oil port on vvt motors? I wonder if one could simply use a double banjo bolt to feed the turbo from same source.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1413817991 |
Originally Posted by psyber_0ptix
(Post 1177034)
Does anyone know the thread pitch on the oil port on vvt motors? I wonder if one could simply use a double banjo bolt to feed the turbo from same source.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1413817991 |
Thanks Joe.
I did some searching on the topic, but due to the unusual nature of the question I didn't come up with anything. I'm sad to hear that only the water port would be available to be tapped, but I genuinely appreciate sharing the knowledge. I'll update the thread as it moves along especially if I do move forward tapping the water port. My '95 block has me spoiled. **Sorry to have made you relive the passing of the pup. I often find that I like mine more than most humans these days. BTW, it looks like I joined a few years before Mr. 18psi, so by that correlation I should have know about it. In the same respect, its not a common topic and we are all trying to better the cause. |
Originally Posted by Joe Perez
(Post 1176901)
While searching for that, I also came across am image of my dog taken while she was in the process of dying:
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...1&d=1413767318 Is this photo better? http://i.picoodle.com/e7dhchp7.gif |
Originally Posted by shuiend
(Post 1177036)
On VVT motors the VVT oil line uses the same port that the oil pressure sensor uses. You simply add the same type of Tee that you would use on 96-00 miatas to run the oil feed line off of.
Also, another option instead of tapping for coolant is just using the port on the back of the head that's normally capped of with a crush washer and bolt to the right of the outlet housing. |
Ironically, it's been more than a year and my sister still has the damn thing in the freezer at home. Every time they try to get around to burying it on the backyard, there's some excuse about why it's to rainy or too cold or whatever... I have a weird family. :)
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Originally Posted by psyber_0ptix
(Post 1177050)
I was looking for an alternative to the tiny 1/8" bspt for a feed. I was using a -6AN per efr technical document. But also this was my discrete way of asking for the thread pitch so I could drill the side of my 94 block for the vvt hardline.
Also, another option instead of tapping for coolant is just using the port on the back of the head that's normally capped of with a crush washer and bolt to the right of the outlet housing.
Originally Posted by Joe Perez
(Post 1177055)
Ironically, it's been more than a year and my sister still has the damn thing in the freezer at home. Every time they try to get around to burying it on the backyard, there's some excuse about why it's to rainy or too cold or whatever... I have a weird family. :)
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Originally Posted by shuiend
(Post 1177065)
When I get home today I will see if I can find any pictures of how I have my VVT setup done on my 94 block. If you have a 94 block, can you just not use the oil feed port on the driver side
I was going to use this for the turbo lol. I want to make this motor nice and clean. I also have a bit more faith in the hard lines unless it's not drilled/tapped perfectly perpendicular. Know the thread pitch of the banjo on the vvt oil port? The bolt itself is still in transit but I'll be dropping by the machine shop today for final parts dropoff otherwise I'd measure it myself |
iirc 1/8" BSPT
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
(Post 1176901)
And when I did finally find it, the specific image I posted which illustrated the point was dead. (Fuck you, ImageFrame.)
Originally Posted by Joe Perez
(Post 1176901)
Water is easy- you're just going through a few mm of metal into an open jacket.
Originally Posted by TheBandit
(Post 1177041)
I'll update the thread as it moves along especially if I do move forward tapping the water port. My '95 block has me spoiled.
Originally Posted by psyber_0ptix
Know the thread pitch of the banjo on the vvt oil port? The bolt itself is still in transit but I'll be dropping by the machine shop today for final parts dropoff otherwise I'd measure it myself
Originally Posted by 18psi
(Post 1177081)
iirc 1/8" BSPT
Originally Posted by JKav
(Post 1085025)
Insomuch as this location is the alternative that addresses any concerns (no matter how small/perceived, etc) associated with that stock oil outlet on the block, it seems pretty relevant.
BTW here's a pic of said VVT banjo tur-bolt. Stock one on top: https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1387666100 |
Alas, no actual mention of thread pitch. M10x1.0 is just a quess
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Just to alleviate confusion, I'm moving to a VVT motor from the factory motor that came in my '95 (which has the aforementioned ports).
Thanks for continued contributions. :) |
ohh right I confused the two since they're right next to each other.
that one JKav used is glorious |
Originally Posted by 18psi
(Post 1177098)
ohh right I confused the two since they're right next to each other.
Originally Posted by 18psi
(Post 1177098)
that one JKav used is glorious
Edit: Shit, I'm sorry. That's JKavs BLOCK bolt. It may in fact be 1/8"BSPT. My apologies for spewing misinformation. |
Yea the pressure sender port is bspt but since the hardline attaches to the block, the vvt motor will have a straight thread into the oil galley.
Mystery continues. |
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