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philip1 12-02-2006 12:18 AM

Tb03???
 
I stumbled across a garett tb03 for an insanely cheap price and freshly rebuilt by a reputible company. Now I don't currently own a Miata but plan to in the near future and FI is definately on the table. Is this turbo worth keeping for a future FI system or should I go trolling for a t25.

BTW I'm a welder and plan to build my own manifold so the flange being funky is a non-issue

Arkmage 12-02-2006 01:40 AM

If you are refering to the TB0335 (Chrysler T1/2 Lancer) that's what I'm planning to use (1.8). Although I'm thinking of changing turbine housings to allow me to upgrade later without changing the manifold.

Should be pretty good for a low power (under 250bhp) system, but I may go higher eventually.

olderguy 12-02-2006 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by philip1 (Post 61203)

BTW I'm a welder........

I thought so by your other post, where are you located?(State?)

philip1 12-02-2006 04:03 PM

I live in North Carolina.
yes the turbo is from a t1/2 chrysler but the wastegate housing is missing. I was thinking about drilling the oddball hole to t-3 specs....any thoughts?

I started autocrossing this year with a Saturn Wagon but it just lacks the instant response of a lighter vehicle and I have driven a few Miatas...I love the open air ride and the handling can't easilly be beat.

After trying out a 2001 nb I have settled on what I want in a miata. I want an NA engine doesn't really matter 1.6 rev high but 1.8 has a bit more torque. Turbo charged at just 6psi intercooled for maximum reliability. Suspension wise nothing special is planned. Kyb gr2's and thats about it but the chassis will get some attention with a FM butterfly brace, hard dog double diagonal bar, strut bars and lower braces to stiffen the tub us as much as possible. Finally some good sticky meats on stock rims for the stealth effect:skid:

Braineack 12-02-2006 04:45 PM

t3s are fun. What size compressor wheel does it have?

philip1 12-02-2006 07:00 PM

TBH I have no idea what trim it is all I know about it is the A/R and that it's a tb0335 off of a chrysler turbo . A/r's are hot side .48 cold side .42 according to the numbers this should work well on either engine but best on the 1.8

Braineack 12-02-2006 07:43 PM

It's not like I wouldn't know about a T3 on a miata.


It's most likely a 45 or 50 trim. It will spool quick but the 45 will start to run out of steam in higher rpms. 50 trim is the smallest I'd go.

philip1 12-02-2006 07:48 PM

cool now all I need to do is come up with a wastegate and get to fabricating a mani and DP

philip1 12-02-2006 07:54 PM

I have another question can I run protoge injectors seeing as they are brown tops or is there an issue with them and the miata computer?

Braineack 12-02-2006 08:05 PM

have to be high impedence. read my FAQ

philip1 12-02-2006 08:41 PM

I see ok so toyota is my best bet cool

Arkmage 12-03-2006 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by braineack (Post 61454)
It's most likely a 45 or 50 trim. It will spool quick but the 45 will start to run out of steam in higher rpms. 50 trim is the smallest I'd go.

That's what I gathered from reading the map on this compressor. Drilling it for a standard t3 flange or changing housings is the way to do it. otherwise once you get to higher power levels that turbo isn't going to move enough air. should be fine to 225 or so whp.

philip1 12-03-2006 05:24 PM

225 is plenty for me after all I'm graduating from a 130 hp Saturn L series to a miata that potentially ahs 225hp it will be lightyears faster

Braineack 12-03-2006 07:52 PM

yes, and quite fun.

philip1 12-03-2006 08:40 PM

:yippee: seriously Jonzing for the miata. The wagon (Oh did I mention that the saturn is a wagon too) handles quite good but its heavy 3100# dry and badlyunder powered even with the mods I've done.

Philip 12-03-2006 08:46 PM


Originally Posted by philip1 (Post 61724)
:yippee: seriously Jonzing for the miata. The wagon (Oh did I mention that the saturn is a wagon too) handles quite good but its heavy 3100# dry and badlyunder powered even with the mods I've done.

pick a better fucking name.

Arkmage 12-04-2006 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by Philip (Post 61725)
pick a better fucking name.

Yeah... Philip seems to dislike competition.

philip1 12-04-2006 06:16 PM

My name was given to me by my parents. I did not pick it. If you don't like me having this name perhaps you should take it up with my parents not me... Plus I have had it longer


OH and BTW... I love my name it fits me I truly love Horses

philip1 12-04-2006 06:22 PM

now back on topic

philip1 12-04-2006 07:23 PM

this turbo doesn't have the wastegate housing or actuator I am thinking about going external w/g instead of internal. Would I be ahead to use the existing port or mount it on the manifold?

Philip 12-04-2006 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by philip1 (Post 62007)
My name was given to me by my parents. I did not pick it. If you don't like me having this name perhaps you should take it up with my parents not me... Plus I have had it longer


OH and BTW... I love my name it fits me I truly love Horses

have it your way :wavey:

philip1 12-04-2006 08:31 PM

Let me get this straight I came here using MY name and YOU tell me to "Get a better fucking name"? I DON"T APPRECIATE THAT!!!!!! if you want to continue this I will leave and not return. I came here seeking help and advice and I get this. this is not professional or polite.

olderguy 12-04-2006 08:58 PM

:vash: :inout: :nono::robert:

It's a full moon today:eek:

Philip 12-04-2006 09:13 PM


Originally Posted by philip1 (Post 62040)
Let me get this straight I came here using MY name and YOU tell me to "Get a better fucking name"? I DON"T APPRECIATE THAT!!!!!! if you want to continue this I will leave and not return. I came here seeking help and advice and I get this. this is not professional or polite.

:wavey:

Braineack 12-04-2006 09:14 PM

I still don't see how hard it is not to piss off Philip.

Philip 12-04-2006 09:18 PM


Originally Posted by braineack (Post 62055)
I still don't see how hard it is not to piss off Philip.

lets see:

Don't use something as close to my screen name as humanly possible. Most boards take offense to spoofing an admin name

Don't fucking spam my forum

Don't post useless bullshit to get around the one of like 3 rules I actually have here.


I guess that's too hard for some.

Arkmage 12-04-2006 11:33 PM


Originally Posted by philip1 (Post 62040)
Let me get this straight I came here using MY name and YOU tell me to "Get a better fucking name"? I DON"T APPRECIATE THAT!!!!!! if you want to continue this I will leave and not return. I came here seeking help and advice and I get this. this is not professional or polite.

Dude... chill the fuck out. If you can't take some occasional teasing and harassment you have no business being on the internet, none the less a car forum. It goes with the community. Nobody was trying to insult you personally, just giving you hell because it's fun and harmless.

As to your post about using the existing WG port... do you mean on the turbo? If you want to do an external wastegate the easiest way to do it is to run off a manifold runner, or better at the union of the 4 runners. Using the stock internal WG port with an external isn't such a hot idea and sounds fairly complicated to fabricate. I'm going to use the stock external WG/O2 housing from the chrysler as it should fit in the engine bay well. This, of course, will get upgraded when time and money allows.


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