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1RMDave 11-13-2018 02:33 PM

Thoughts on ARTech Log Manifold
 
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shlammed 11-13-2018 04:22 PM

not a huge fan.
pushing so much air through those last few tee's for the 4th cylinder.

acedeuce802 11-13-2018 04:34 PM

Even if it's performance is no worse than a standard log, I'm not sure why you'd consider this over the Trackspeed cast manifold.

SpartanSV 11-13-2018 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by 1RMDave (Post 1510917)
Turbo I'm using is an evo 3 td05-16g.


Originally Posted by acedeuce802 (Post 1510940)
Even if it's performance is no worse than a standard log, I'm not sure why you'd consider this over the Trackspeed cast manifold.

When did TSE start making mitsubishi manifolds?

sixshooter 11-13-2018 05:19 PM

The manifold will hit the 300whp goal you mentioned. Didn't see an actual question to answer otherwise.

1RMDave 11-13-2018 05:33 PM

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Deuce 11-13-2018 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by 1RMDave (Post 1510948)
Thanks for your thoughts on it.
Ya, it's almost impossible to find a 1.8 mani with a td05 flange. Also, I needed it to be simple enough to build myself. I made a copy of the manifold pictured in mild steel for about $130 using a prl exhaust flange and sch 40 mild steel weld els.

IMO you shouldn't build your setup around a turbo that's "laying around" . You gotta be mindful about the big picture ... like what if you want more ?? and you will , we all do loll

You should buy a gt2860rs or efr with ARtech , FM , trackspeed or whatever log manifold you want that will utlimatly allow you to have a setup that can be improve instead of being stuck with weird mitsubishi flanges .

my two cents fwiw

1RMDave 11-13-2018 07:58 PM

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borka 11-13-2018 10:38 PM

So if you are fabricating yourself, why not put the flange on cylinder #2 like most normal manifolds?

I just dont see how this log can possibly flow well...?

Deuce 11-13-2018 11:21 PM


Originally Posted by 1RMDave (Post 1510968)
I was building my own manifold regardless, so it doesnt matter to me which flange I put on it. I wouldnt say my 16g is just something I had laying around, it will probably spool up like a gt2871r and be good for 380whp (member here did 349whp at 20psi with a e316g) It's a great match for the miata. I respect the guys using an efr but I am not about to jump on that bandwagon, there are other good turbos out there that wont run me $2k canadian. The efr and manifold route you are suggesting is over $3k, that is absolutely out of the question for me.

It all make sense , if your turbo meet your goal and your budget that's all it matters. Those suggestions are proven to work and to offer "headroom" for upgrade but aren't the only way to do it.

Still I feel like a T2 flange is a more versatil option , but I guess you could still use a 20g if you ever need more .


I'm a fellow canadian too !!
I live near Montréal , where are you located ?

sixshooter 11-14-2018 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by borka (Post 1510996)

I just dont see how this log can possibly flow well...?

Logs don't flow well. They all have issues because they are logs.

For a log that has the turbo centered on number 2, the number 2 cylinder charge still goes towards number 1 and number 3 when it comes out whether it's what we want or not. Similarly number three goes towards number two and number four. Makes no difference where the turbo is. Since logs do a very poor job of directing the charge the best you can hope for out of a log is that the volume is relatively small yielding a quicker spool. This one accomplishes that just fine.

shlammed 11-14-2018 08:16 AM

exact reason why I never build log manifolds.

1RMDave 11-14-2018 09:15 AM

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1RMDave 11-14-2018 10:57 AM

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sixshooter 11-14-2018 12:56 PM

Looks good to me.

https://sinisterdiesel.com/images/F144792337.jpg

mrryanbaker 11-14-2018 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 1511104)

That some Ford Barra shenanigans I see?

sixshooter 11-14-2018 02:29 PM

Cummins

1RMDave 11-14-2018 02:39 PM

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