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Lawone 11-04-2016 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1372008)
Can you look in the phone book and find a local hydraulic shop. Then have them make you a new line and see if it still makes the noise. If you can push the line around and get the hissing to stop, then I would be looking to replace the line.

It only hissed once. Every time I have checked it's been fine. Will be refitting the fittings to make sure all is okay.



Originally Posted by psyber_0ptix (Post 1372013)
Cliffnotes for those just entering this thread:

"Hi my coolant bubbles because pressure isn't being kept in my cooling system. I've done everything. What should I do?"

Did you pressure test?

"Yes, I have a leak. I'll do something else that doesn't address sealing any pressure loss, but I wonder what it could be."

[...]

Funny man :P

It doesn't leak. But I am going to check it and change.




Update.

I've been advised by a few soruces to clock the chra 15 - 20 degrees and there is a pocket where if the chra is flat it wouldn't siphon out and just boil. clocking the turbo slightly promote the hot water to move upstream.

They have also advised run the exit water feed directly to the raditor. Top right. They said this has been proved to be the best way but isn't aways possible depending on the setup.

psyber_0ptix 11-04-2016 10:57 AM

Are you using any wetting agents in the coolant ?

Routing it to the radiator will help shed heat before being pulled into the pump again. I'll be doing the same thing when I revamp my coolant stuff.

fooger03 11-04-2016 11:54 AM

Running your radiator fans after engine shutoff is only going to accomplish one thing: reducing the life of your battery.

Seriously - pressure test your cooling system and make repairs until it can reliably hold 20 psi...

Then put a 14-16 PSI cap on the radiator and be done with it.

Everything else you're doing is a waste of time, effort, money.

Clocking the turbo isn't going to do jack shit for you - taking the high point out of your water line will marginally help, but won't fix your post shut-down complaints.

For the record, no matter what you do, you're going to be able to audibly detect at least some heat-related post-shutdown activity going on in the CHRA; even if you idle for 10 minutes before shutting it down...unless you put a fan timer on your shit, in which case the fans are going to cover the sounds of said activity while cooling the coolant in the radiator and doing nothing to cool the coolant in the turbocharger. The only "clocking" you should be doing to the turbocharger is ensuring that the oil supply line is as close to "up" as possible; which looks to be in the exact orientation that FM shipped it to you.

NBoost 11-04-2016 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by Lawone (Post 1371892)
Already done that. Fitted a Stant 22-24lbs cap and still does the same.

No, you didn't already do that. You replaced it with a cap of a different spec, which is only going to make this harder. Put OE spec cap back on.

Savington 11-05-2016 02:39 PM

$20 says both radiator caps are bad

dc2696 11-05-2016 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by Lawone (Post 1372007)
Little update.

Will be rerouting the line to go under see if that makes any different.

I have also ordered a relay timer. Which I will hook up directly to the fans off the battery / fuse box 12v to be used with a push bottom to activate it.

This will allow the fans to be on for x amount of time. Will do 3mins and see how I go. When the car is off.

Almost like a turbo timer but only for the fans.


I'm hoping the effect of the fans on it may just stop the turbo boiling the water causing steam and building the pressure to make the CAP pop.

Problem solved!! Good work OP on coming up with an innovative solution to a complex situation!


lol

Lawone 11-13-2016 05:56 AM

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Little update.

went to another extreme which solved the problem but also created another one.

I spoke to owen devlopments a turbo company here in the UK.

they said to clock the turbo or.. do the turbo return directly to the radiator which they said is the setup they alway do if possible.

so got the mixing manifold welding up and changed abit to suit my setup better and got a 8mm barb welded onto the top right of the radiator.

lovely I thought so fitted it all back up and low and behold it works perfectly and you can hear the water being pulled through on shut off and no cap popping problem.

but guess f**king what... the car cruises at 65c and won't get up to temperature.

Bastard!!! So the fact I have bypassed the mixing manifold that 8mm hole is basically the same as drilling your thermostat with a 8mm hole.

Bloody great..

so im back to square one wishing I just tried the fan mod first. Which may or may not of solved the problem anyway.

FML!!


so do I cover some of the radiator during the winter months. (It's winter here 5-10c and will get lower)

or drill out the mixing manifold and clock the turbo and fit it back to normal?

fooger03 11-13-2016 11:36 AM

Well, since you've done such a good job of listening to us so far and implementing our suggestions vice inventing your own, let me take 5 minutes of my own time to talk you through everything you need to know in order to solve this issue....

:eggplant:

Lawone 11-13-2016 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by fooger03 (Post 1374171)
Well, since you've done such a good job of listening to us so far and implementing our suggestions vice inventing your own, let me take 5 minutes of my own time to talk you through everything you need to know in order to solve this issue....

:eggplant:


The only suggestion really..

Was to route the pipe under the turbo not over.

But as I had been advised to go direct to the radiator by a known turbo specialist I thought I try that.

But it would seem 8mm flow of water is enough to cool our engines by 20c.

so I am going to route the pipe under and see what happens and update. as per this thread suggested idea.

deezums 11-13-2016 11:48 AM

No fucking shit the car won't get up to temperature. The only thing that should ever meter water to the radiator on a street car is the thermostat. If you do it any other way the thermostat is pointless.

Whoever told you to do that is an idiot. Cap it off and go back to how you had it. Fix the air leak.

You are always going to boil coolant if there is an air leak. It won't boil, or you won't notice it boil, while it's running because it's constantly replacing the lost pressure.

Fans aren't going to do anything.

psyber_0ptix 11-13-2016 03:51 PM

Did you fix the leak?

Lawone 11-13-2016 04:42 PM


Originally Posted by psyber_0ptix (Post 1374204)
Did you fix the leak?

I re-did all the fittings on the water feed to make sure there were okay.

deezums 11-13-2016 05:12 PM

Did you test it the right way before you disabled the thermostat?

Lawone 11-13-2016 05:39 PM

I rechecked all the lines and refitted them to make sure all was okay.

tested the car, same problem.

Then got bits welded on. Which fixed the problem and you could hear the water correctly shiponing on the turbo.

But this was with the thermostat technically disabled.


im now going to do as suggested here and run pipe underneath if it does the same again I will clock the turbo and hope for the best!


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