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miata_97 10-21-2007 02:57 PM

turbo selection help
 
alright we'll i've been browsing here and there and all i hear about is garret turbos. it seems like not a lot of ppl use different turbos so i want to know if this turbo will work. according to my friend it has a 2" outlet and is a schwitzer borg warner s2....ohh and anybody got an issue of maximum boost lying around? i need knowledge increase

Saml01 10-21-2007 04:53 PM

Amazon has plenty of issues laying around. The book is worth the money to get, its probably the only real definitive source for forced induction info.

miata_97 10-21-2007 05:09 PM

indeed...what about that turbo?
 
yup i actually have the page for the book on amazon bookmarked, gonna do that if i don't win the ebay auction....but i heard u can download it...just a thought i'd rather have a hard copy. so what about the turbo anyone know?

Splitime 10-21-2007 05:29 PM

The newer BW turbos won't have much real world feedback for you. I know they are making inroads into the honda crowd over on HondaTech... Neogenesis on here also flirted with using one, I know he did some homework on them.

They are nice turbos... its just a matter of finding the right sized one. Inlet/outlet #s don't really tell anything.

beerslurpy 10-21-2007 05:32 PM

People use garret turbos because that is what most people make manifolds for. The T3 flange is a real crowd pleaser- it supports every 1.8L sized application and many of the 1.6L ones as well.

For compressors, the T3 60" all the way up to at least the T04E .50 have 2" outlets. The biggest difference is compressor inlet size and wheel/housing size.

I think most people are running T3 .48 turbines with a variety of different housings. I've run a Stage 1 turbine wheel in the past and I run a Stage 3 now. I use 5 bolt AMG diesel housings but others run 5 bolt ford patterns or 4 bolt patterns and external wastegates. There are other patterns but those three are the most popular for turbine housings.

You can get 5 bolt ford based turbos in junkyards off the old 2.3L turbocoupes and mustangs if I remember correctly.
Old mercedes diesel sedans have the AMG housing.
A lot of shops sell the 4 bolt varieties.

You can run external WG with a 5 bolt if your DP blocks off the WG hole.

miata_97 10-21-2007 05:55 PM

he put it up on ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/schwi...spagenameZWDVW

apparently he doesn't know much about the turbo either because a lot of info is missing. gotta go find neogenesis i guess. and well beerslurpy i guess i gotta find something with a t3 flange or see if i can find something that mates with this turbo as far as manifolds go.

now one other thing. sourcing these turbos from old cars at junkyards is probably gonna require some sort of rebuild (possibly more than the turbo itself right?)

Arkmage 10-21-2007 06:23 PM

journal bearing turbos are easy to rebuild and the kits are usually less that $70.

magnamx-5 10-21-2007 07:20 PM

I run a mitsubishi turbo and love it cheap DSM turbos can be found everywhere.

Braineack 10-21-2007 07:44 PM

borg warner turbos own you.

miata_97 10-22-2007 03:01 AM

i don't even know what that means but alright

neogenesis2004 10-22-2007 04:01 AM

That s2 is a very tiny turbo, I would pass on it.

Atlanta93LE 10-22-2007 05:55 AM


Originally Posted by magnamx-5 (Post 165467)
I run a mitsubishi turbo and love it cheap DSM turbos can be found everywhere.

+1

miata_97 10-22-2007 04:17 PM

pass on it?
 
but i'm only looking to make about 200hp, nothing radical...but this COULD work right neogenesis? i mean as far as the turbo not making 200hp


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