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skidude 09-23-2008 06:14 PM

VHT Flameproof vs. Ceramic Coating
 
I bought some VHT Flameproof stuff and I'm wondering if it helps with underhood temps.

I'd like to have some kind of heat barrier on my log manifold, so if this stuff doesn't work then I'll have to find some way to ceramic coat it. (there's a thread on it around here)

The can says "Ceramic Coating" on it, but it also says "Header Paint". I know ceramic coating isn't paint, but since this says both, and the website says it has ceramic flakes in it, maybe it does help with the temps.

levnubhin 09-23-2008 06:16 PM

Whats the temp rating? Chances are it will just burn off.
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airbrush1 09-23-2008 07:42 PM

won't just burn off, I have it on my manifold. Doesn't help with heat, but does make my manifold look prettier.

patsmx5 09-23-2008 07:50 PM


Originally Posted by airbrush1 (Post 311518)
won't just burn off, I have it on my manifold. Doesn't help with heat, but does make my manifold look prettier.

Pics! I wanna see. I wanna paint my manifold black as well as the rest of the exhaust.

skidude 09-23-2008 08:11 PM

It's rated to 2000F. This stuff has been discussed in a couple other threads but nobody mentions in those threads about whether or not it helps with heat.

Since it doesn't help with heat, I guess I'm stuck finding a DIY Ceramic coating and an oven to bake it in.

patsmx5 09-23-2008 08:21 PM

(Flame suit on, but not a ceramic coated one...) I seriously doubt that ceramic coating does much in the way of reducing under hood temps. See if you can look up the thermal conductivity of ceramic. Then look up how thick the layer of ceramic is that is usually applied to the manifold. From there, the math will tell you how much of an insulator the ceramic coating really is. My guess is a shield that wraps around the manifold would reduce under hood temps more. An inch of air has got to be a better insulator than say .010" of ceramic or however thin it is.

TonyV 09-23-2008 09:53 PM

hmmm possibility of discovering some useful info detected

I suggest JoeP break out his easy bake oven and get a vid camera going...

KPLAFIN 09-23-2008 09:57 PM


Originally Posted by tvalenziano (Post 311547)
hmmm possibility of discovering some useful info detected

I suggest JoeP break out his easy bake oven and get a vid camera going...

Not too sure an easy bake would get hot enough, may have to use 2 bulbs :giggle:.

skidude 09-23-2008 09:59 PM


Originally Posted by KPLAFIN (Post 311548)
Not too sure an easy bake would get hot enough, may have to use 2 bulbs :giggle:.

If you put the easy bake oven INSIDE a full-size oven, it just might work...

levnubhin 09-23-2008 10:03 PM


Originally Posted by airbrush1 (Post 311518)
won't just burn off, I have it on my manifold. Doesn't help with heat, but does make my manifold look prettier.


Good to know. I want my manifold pretty also. Skidude, where did you pick the stuff up from?
I found some on partsamerics.com id you get it locally?
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skidude 09-23-2008 10:05 PM

I bought the paint from Advance Auto Parts for <$10 per can. Comes in a bunch of different colors. Somebody should do the bright orange and post it up here. It would look pretty good on a black car, but it would look like ass on my red one.

leatherface24 09-24-2008 09:32 AM

I did bright orange and now its white. My egt's are way high or this stuff just sucks. Ill post a pic up later

zoom2zoom 09-24-2008 03:03 PM

I used the black on my Hks manifold 5 years ago and it never flaked off.

levnubhin 09-24-2008 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by zoom2zoom (Post 311826)
I used the black on my Hks manifold 5 years ago and it never flaked off.


Pics?
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Arkmage 09-24-2008 10:41 PM


Originally Posted by skidude108 (Post 311552)
Somebody should do the bright orange and post it up here. It would look pretty good on a black car, but it would look like ass on my red one.

I intend to try it out on my cat back... safety orange just to make counting the roll overs easier on the video.


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