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qes78 06-04-2007 12:34 AM

Which WBO2
 
Hey guys,

I'm going to be running a Link ECU Mk2.

I'm sourcing for a Wideband O2 sensor to tap into the Link and I have this question:

Should I opt for a Innovate LC1 WBO2 (with no display) 199
Or would it make more sense to go for an AEM Uego with display for around 280?

Any difference in the 2?

Kelly 06-04-2007 12:36 AM

I like to have a display at all times. I have run the Innovate, AEM and Zeitronix. They are all very nice.

turbopezz 06-04-2007 01:35 AM

aem uego is designed to work with the link.and theres insrtuctions on fm site to wire it in...widopentuning can get you a wideband as well

plus if you install your link ecu you will have a ecu wire that gets removed from your ecu and gets taped over.you can cut it off and crimp it to the wideband wire and plug it in.

turbopezz 06-04-2007 01:40 AM

http://www.flyinmiata.com/support/in...gauge_type.pdf

jayc72 06-04-2007 02:22 AM

The procedure for connecting the LC-1 to the link is the same as the AEM. You just need to use different target values, which FM can give you. Using the AEM instructions you should be able to figure out what you need to do.

timhill78 06-04-2007 02:26 AM

the aem doesn't need calibrating. I have it and haven't had any problems.

jayc72 06-04-2007 02:36 AM

Recalibration is a good thing. As the sensor gets old you can compensate for it. Also there is probably some variation in the sensors themself.

It's not like you have to do a lot to calibrate the thing anyway. Remove the sensor from the exhaust and ground the calibration wire. Or you could wait a couple of days for the gas to disipate from the exhuast.

I'm sure the AEM is a find unit too.

Braineack 06-04-2007 08:44 AM

I've seen the AEM first hand (thanks to WOT acutally)

Gotta be one of the easiest things ever to install, two wires...the end (three with EMS).

qes78 06-05-2007 09:56 AM

I've read on some other forum that the WBO2 sensors are pretty quick to die?

Splitime 06-05-2007 10:01 AM

Not if installed properly.

Typically installed 18" or more from the Head or Turbo.
Installed Vertically or as close as possible. ( I found this important... I had one horizontal to the ground and killed 2 sensors quite quickly. I rewelded a bung vertically and have been on the same sensor for 20k now.)

Bosch sensors for the Innovate stuff (unsure what AEM/NGK/FJO/Zeit/PLX etc... use) cost like 50bucks from www.1stvwparts.com

qes78 06-05-2007 10:33 AM

Ah! Thanks for the heads up!
My friend tells me it's technically possible to run both a WB and NB o2 at the same time to the Link?

Joe Perez 06-05-2007 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by qes78 (Post 120511)
My friend tells me it's technically possible to run both a WB and NB o2 at the same time to the Link?

AFAIK the Link only has one sensor input. Many of us however who are using piggybacks use two sensors. I have the NB sensor connected the the OEM ECU, and the WB connected to the EMU.

qes78 06-05-2007 11:13 AM

Yes, but there's a mod made to the ecu to run WB.
Apparently it's possible to run both NB and WB at the same time?

qes78 06-05-2007 12:11 PM

I've decided to go with Innovate's DB kit.
Thanks for all the help guys

jayc72 06-05-2007 12:12 PM

You can leave both the stock and the WB connected to the link. Don't know what this will do for you, but the link does read them seperately. I don't beleive that the link will do closed loop with the NB at cruise and idle and the WB for everything else.

jayc72 06-05-2007 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by qes78 (Post 120551)
I've decided to go with Innovate's DB kit.

What's the cost difference between the AEM and the LC-1 DB kit?

Kelly 06-05-2007 02:16 PM

The same. $270 shipped.

qes78 06-06-2007 05:44 AM


Originally Posted by jayc72 (Post 120553)
What's the cost difference between the AEM and the LC-1 DB kit?

price wise, they
re about the same. Read on some other forum though, that the AEM's controller isn't anything to scream about and the innovate's is good for dyno but bad for street tuning cause it's a little slow.
ah well

jif 06-06-2007 06:10 AM

Yeah, with the "Obiwan" Link ('96-'97)... it also does low impedance injectors and sequential injection :D


Originally Posted by qes78 (Post 120529)
Yes, but there's a mod made to the ecu to run WB.
Apparently it's possible to run both NB and WB at the same time?


qes78 06-06-2007 10:40 AM

I'm on a NA6.
So, no Obiwan for me. But i do have high imp injectors and sequential.
lol


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