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cardriverx 12-04-2011 01:12 AM

Is this what a melted COP looks like?
 
So about 3/4 the way back to pittsburgh, my car started to run on three cylinders. At first it was just under boost, then by the time I got home it would not run well at all. If I give it more than 15% throttle, it drops a cylinder. After checking around I pulled the COP and this is what it looked like...

Is there a way to test these by checking resistance?

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-f...204_010427.jpg

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-N...204_010413.jpg

shuiend 12-04-2011 08:52 AM

It seems like it is LSx coil time. You can do a full swap for less then $200.

flounder 12-04-2011 09:47 AM

It sure looks shot but you can test it by using a test light. Clamp one end to the body (ground) and probe into the coil secondary with the other end. Have someone startup the car and slowly pull the probe out from the coil pack. You should have a nice blue/purple spark extend about an inch from where the spark plug would attach.

Don't get zapped. :idea:

Also, make sure the spark plug is still tight in the bore. IDK why the insulator looks cocked to one side in that pic?

cardriverx 12-04-2011 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by flounder (Post 802211)
It sure looks shot but you can test it by using a test light. Clamp one end to the body (ground) and probe into the coil secondary with the other end. Have someone startup the car and slowly pull the probe out from the coil pack. You should have a nice blue/purple spark extend about an inch from where the spark plug would attach.

Don't get zapped. :idea:

Also, make sure the spark plug is still tight in the bore. IDK why the insulator looks cocked to one side in that pic?

It is seperating from the housing, that's what lead me to believe I melted it.

Braineack 12-04-2011 11:14 AM

push it back together, they come apart there.

hustler 12-04-2011 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 802204)
It seems like it is LSx coil time. You can do a full swap for less then $200.

Link to plug wire info. I've been thinking about doing this because the Lone Star State has an abundance of LS1 coils on the cheap.

cardriverx 12-04-2011 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 802227)
push it back together, they come apart there.

It seems really really hard to get it to budge, at least by hand. I guess ill try a vice or something.

cardriverx 12-04-2011 04:32 PM

so i put it in a vice and tried to force it back together, and its a no go. I cranked on it until it felt like it was going to explode, and it did not go back in. I ordered a couple off ebay just to be safe..

kotomile 12-04-2011 05:15 PM

Yup, that's exactly what mine looked like when I popped some. Are your dwell settings correct?

Ben 12-04-2011 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 802229)
Link to plug wire info. I've been thinking about doing this because the Lone Star State has an abundance of LS1 coils on the cheap.

Mount them behind the cam cover like stock and use stock wires. Pictures of mine exist on this site somewhere, but unless you know what you're looking for it's passable for stock.

cardriverx 12-04-2011 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by kotomile (Post 802349)
Yup, that's exactly what mine looked like when I popped some. Are your dwell settings correct?

Awesome, thanks +1 for you. I am going to run through my tune and re tune the dwell, keeping it as low as possible. I thought I had it as 2.5-3ms but I have not checked it in awhile. Ill have to see how low I can go without misfiring.

hustler 12-04-2011 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 802361)
Mount them behind the cam cover like stock and use stock wires. Pictures of mine exist on this site somewhere, but unless you know what you're looking for it's passable for stock.

Fab skill fail.
:cry:

Ben 12-04-2011 06:53 PM

A pair of 90 degree angle brackets and a few inches of allthread or steel rod. The brackets bolt to the back of the cam cover and the coils are sandwiched on the rod. If you can't do it, then you fail at life.


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