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IcantDo55 06-26-2008 03:02 PM

Will this EX WG placement work?
 
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Got my hands on a Tial 38mm WG and am going to mount it some where on the ETG greddy replacement manifold. The picture below shows where I want it to go for space resins. Will it work there or will it not being centered in the manifold be a major problem?

Ideas?

wes65 06-26-2008 03:07 PM

You will have less backpressure on that cylinder than all the others. This will probably fuck shit up. Not sure how, something makes me think it would run lean.

TurboTim 06-26-2008 03:09 PM

Try it. If it doesn't work, use one of those block off plates and try another spot.

PAT! 06-26-2008 03:15 PM

It will work. Most low end manifolds don't have ideal WG placement. If it is REALLY bad or you are generating extremely high exhaust energy you may have funky boost curves.

Splitime 06-26-2008 03:15 PM

You'll probably see boost creep.

I'd personally run it under the manifold directly below the turbo flange.

If you are curious as to why I mention creep and placement there, look into peoples views on the Drag manifold for Hondas and their creep issues.

Of note... some people don't have this issue... the highest percentage withOUT issues are using Tial WGs... alot of people were using deltacreeps (deltagates). I know loaning a tial to a buddy helped with his issues some... and he had already joined that WG location with runner 2, just to try and help.

kotomile 06-26-2008 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by splitime (Post 276255)
i'd Personally Run It Under The Manifold Directly Below The Turbo Flange.

+1

SloS13 06-26-2008 03:28 PM

If you tried, it would be difficult to have more of a shitty WG placement....that was horrible english but you know what im getting at.

IcantDo55 06-26-2008 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by Splitime (Post 276255)

I'd personally run it under the manifold directly below the turbo flange.
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I agree, its just tight there. Guess I'll have to look again. How about a remote WG say tap it under turbo and use 6"-8" of pipe than mount WG?

m2cupcar 06-26-2008 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by splitime (Post 276255)
I'd Personally Run It Under The Manifold Directly Below The Turbo Flange.

+2
is it really that tight? It would seem you'd only need about 3" - but that's way better than sticking it on any of those runners IMO... especially with that design.

Zabac 06-26-2008 03:50 PM

the closer it is to the turbo flange, the better of you are

kenzo42 06-26-2008 04:25 PM


Originally Posted by Splitime (Post 276255)
You'll probably see boost creep.

I'd personally run it under the manifold directly below the turbo flange.

If you are curious as to why I mention creep and placement there, look into peoples views on the Drag manifold for Hondas and their creep issues.

Of note... some people don't have this issue... the highest percentage withOUT issues are using Tial WGs... alot of people were using deltacreeps (deltagates). I know loaning a tial to a buddy helped with his issues some... and he had already joined that WG location with runner 2, just to try and help.

I was just going to mention the same about the rev hard off centered WG manifold.

kenzo42 06-26-2008 04:27 PM

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rappadan 06-28-2008 05:13 PM

directly under turbo flange ftw

bryantaylor 06-28-2008 05:24 PM

as long as it opens, i really dont see it making too much of a difference where its at

nester 07-02-2008 10:49 AM

Should work fine, although more centered would be optimum.

tilt 07-02-2008 03:19 PM

Someone with turbo knowledge from the honda community. yay! :bigtu: Wastegates on runners should be banished along with FMUs and AFC piggy-backs :D


Originally Posted by Splitime (Post 276255)
You'll probably see boost creep.

I'd personally run it under the manifold directly below the turbo flange.

If you are curious as to why I mention creep and placement there, look into peoples views on the Drag manifold for Hondas and their creep issues.

Of note... some people don't have this issue... the highest percentage withOUT issues are using Tial WGs... alot of people were using deltacreeps (deltagates). I know loaning a tial to a buddy helped with his issues some... and he had already joined that WG location with runner 2, just to try and help.



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