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y8s 03-18-2007 10:50 PM

y8s diy turbo update tease (updated!)
 
So I said it was time to break ground on the re-install of my DIY setup. Here's a couple teaser pics. You love my phone camera.

Stainless downpipe. Sitting on the old one. That's a 2" V-band clamp I think.
http://www.y8s.com/albums/turbo/DSC00169.sized.jpg

Turbo flange for dp. I closed off the internal WG port (the flapper's welded) and added an internal wall to improve flow.
http://www.y8s.com/albums/turbo/DSC00172.sized.jpg

Intercooler piping. All but the compressor outlet since that's gonna be custom. Throttle body inlet has fittings for BOV, air temp, and water injection.
http://www.y8s.com/albums/turbo/DSC00170.sized.jpg

Water injection bung with plug
http://www.y8s.com/albums/turbo/DSC00174.sized.jpg

BOV and air temp sensor
http://www.y8s.com/albums/turbo/DSC00173.sized.jpg

And that was my Sunday. Next I'll probably sort out the compressor outlet tube design so Bell can work on it while I reinstall the exhaust and fab up the downpipe.

Matt

turbopezz 03-18-2007 10:54 PM

wow thats coming out awesome.:bigtu: :bigtu:

y8s 03-18-2007 10:58 PM

oh and fyi, I didn't make the intercooler pipes. Corky did!

mr2guy7 03-18-2007 11:07 PM

<--- jealous!!! those ic pipes are freakin nice!

s10383 03-18-2007 11:17 PM

Question about welding the internal wg flapper shut. Do you leave the flapper in and weld it in or do you take it completely out and fill the hole with weld? Also, I'm assuming you did the internal WG plug with stick. What type of stick did you use? Nickel??

Anthony

cjernigan 03-18-2007 11:58 PM

Everything looks good man, love the IC pipes. Is that a silver PC or paint?




Originally Posted by s10383 (Post 93916)
Question about welding the internal wg flapper shut. Do you leave the flapper in and weld it in or do you take it completely out and fill the hole with weld? Also, I'm assuming you did the internal WG plug with stick. What type of stick did you use? Nickel??

Anthony

I personally left my flap in because the flapper itself is the best fit for the WG port and two simple tack welds will hold it in place. I used a mig welder though so no idea about what stick to use. Might be able to just crank up the amps and use some 7018 on it. You're not really making a structural weld so I don't think preheating and nickel rod will be necessary. Cover up the turbine wheel when welding to keep splatter out of it.

s10383 03-19-2007 07:14 AM

LOL sweet, I can use mig with solid wire and 75/25 gas and it will hold?? How does that happen? We're welding cast!!

Anthony

t25miata 03-19-2007 08:46 AM

That looks awesome! Corky rocks!

60AGS

y8s 03-19-2007 10:10 AM

I left the flapper in and did a couple tack welds with regular old mild steel compatible mig wire. Just remove the turbine housing first to keep the turbine clean.

The pipes are silver powder coat. I was expecting "silver" like with the sparkles and everything but Stephanie surprised me with these gems and I was quite happy. They have sort of a dulling polished aluminum look to them.

y8s 03-20-2007 11:54 PM

More stuff... from the installation of the intercooler.

I just tore off the front end.... it was easier.
http://www.y8s.com/albums/intercoole...0175.sized.jpg

pax side pipe. btw, begi sells some funky power steering line kit... they're VERY bendable. fit wherever you want. and I love zip ties.
http://www.y8s.com/albums/intercoole...0176.sized.jpg

throttle body inlet pipe. fits like a glove.
http://www.y8s.com/gallery/intercool...0177.sized.jpg

I guess the BOV goes here? air goes in over on the right.
http://www.y8s.com/albums/intercoole...0185.sized.jpg

Thank you for watching. Goodnight.

Exhondaman 03-21-2007 12:06 AM

Goodness, what size turbo is that?

y8s 03-21-2007 12:09 AM

GT2876R. Half potato, half god knows.

akaryrye 03-21-2007 01:30 AM

its a big fucking 76 A/R (looks like 70 in the pics) compressor housing on a gt28 turbine housing looks like to me. That is a HUGE compressor. I would be interested to see how your spoolup characteristics are with that thing.

nester 03-21-2007 01:31 AM

Looks good.. I'm v-band flanging all the exhaust this time around.. It looks baller, and it just works so much better..

nester 03-21-2007 01:32 AM

I weld flappers shut with a mig welder.. Leave the flap in and weld all the way around it, I also tack the arm where the actuator attaches, just for good measure..

PaKMaN 03-21-2007 03:48 AM

I would have gone with the GT2871R ... but good luck. Definately post up some vids ... btw doesn't the 76 have its own internal WG?

y8s 03-21-2007 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by akaryrye (Post 94564)
its a big fucking 76 A/R (looks like 70 in the pics) compressor housing on a gt28 turbine housing looks like to me. That is a HUGE compressor. I would be interested to see how your spoolup characteristics are with that thing.

.70 A/R. Garret's naming system is stupid.

Back in the day when I got this thing, there were no fancy hybrid GT/T turbos. There were 2 GT25 turbos and that was it. The compressor is the TO4S. Here's the specs:

Code:

COMPRESSOR
A/R  TRIM  Model    Wheel Dia    hp    comp flow
0.70  48    TO4S    2.09/3.00    400    44 lbs 

TURBINE
A/R    TRIM    Wheel Dia
0.64    76    1.85/2.12

(table didn't work the first time)

For spool it's actually quite nice. Here's a shot of it at low boost compared to stock. Photoshop for the lose. 4psi at 3000 rpm.
http://www.y8spec.com/dyno/dynocomparo.gif

So for lack of a GOOD reason to switch (turbos aren't free), I decided to work with it and see what I could do with it. My favorite thing about this turbo? Garrett's website says it's not recommended for anything.

y8s 03-21-2007 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by PaKMaN (Post 94576)
I would have gone with the GT2871R ... but good luck. Definately post up some vids ... btw doesn't the 76 have its own internal WG?

read above, no such thing back then. and yeah, it has an internal flapper... that's welded shut on mine.

Markp 03-23-2007 07:03 AM


Originally Posted by akaryrye (Post 94564)
its a big fucking 76 A/R (looks like 70 in the pics) compressor housing on a gt28 turbine housing looks like to me. That is a HUGE compressor. I would be interested to see how your spoolup characteristics are with that thing.

It's not a 76 A/R, it's a 76mm compressor wheel (3.00 inches), garretts naming system actually makes sense.

Mark

miatamania 03-23-2007 09:41 AM

I want your car :(


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