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mp62 9psi stock motor
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225whp/198flbt on mustang dyno (add ~10% to numbers)
ran out of fuel at ~6300rpms, have to install a fuel pump and go back added: boost gauge was reading ~9psi with a lot of vibration and was getting into the 180kpa table with 105 kpa @ 0psi will have to run a log to get real psi Attachment 194807 |
not to bad what managemnet are you using?
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thats a whole lot of power for a blower on 9psi.
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Originally Posted by magnamx-5
(Post 623241)
not to bad what managemnet are you using?
Originally Posted by Stealth97
(Post 623248)
thats a whole lot of power for a blower on 9psi.
http://pix.motivatedphotos.com/2008/...-me-rollin.jpg |
Congrats on the numbers!
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definitely not bad for a supercharger.
did you get aggressive with the timing? |
Originally Posted by 18psi
(Post 623309)
definitely not bad for a supercharger.
did you get aggressive with the timing? |
Show us the spark table!
I bet that lower static compression added a lot of output in general. This car is light and fast. In for 1:25's at Hallett. |
Id like to see the ignition table as well
and maybe a datalog? what are the IATs like? |
Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 623366)
Show us the spark table!
I bet that lower static compression added a lot of output in general. This car is light and fast. In for 1:25's at Hallett. Until he revs past 6000RPM, in for 99:99:99 lap times at any track ;) |
Originally Posted by Full_Tilt_Boogie
(Post 623368)
Id like to see the ignition table as well
and maybe a datalog? what are the IATs like? timing set to top dead (no corrections) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1..._man/spark.png
Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 623378)
Until he revs past 6000RPM, in for 99:99:99 lap times at any track ;)
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lol @ conservative spark table too. That's crazy output considering that spark table.
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Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 623402)
lol @ conservative spark table too. That's crazy output considering that spark table.
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Originally Posted by jeff_man
(Post 623406)
so he wasn't lieing to me about the spark being safe?
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Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 623408)
I have 10* more advance in mine at target boost and I'm under prime efficiency. Did you end up putting a cage in this car? What does it weigh?
i think you need this link http://forum.miata.net/vb/archive/in.../t-229571.html i'll be at nasa tt taking home tires. |
that spark is hella conservative im amazed u made that much power.
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Originally Posted by jeff_man
(Post 623411)
weight unknown, estimated under 2300lb no cage yet
i think you need this link http://forum.miata.net/vb/archive/in.../t-229571.html i'll be at nasa tt taking home tires. |
Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 623413)
You're going to be under 2100lb easily. My car is 2335 with nothing removed from it.
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just remembered the car had the biggest gain from gapping the plugs from +.040 to .028
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Damn not bad at all, throw some WI on there and go back.
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Originally Posted by levnubhin
(Post 623517)
Damn not bad at all, throw some WI on there and go back.
Which motor do you have in there? |
Originally Posted by jeff_man
(Post 623522)
stock 99. i can't add anymore power, i don't want more the 240 on the stock rods. i am installing a 255 pump and going back asap
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Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 623531)
It troque that bends rods though, not HP and I presume you're making less torque than most of the turbo guys here. You also need to be concerned with that 5-speed. Good thing you have an FMs2 clutch.
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Originally Posted by jeff_man
(Post 623534)
@200 now on the mustang, not sure if you do the same 10% for torque as you do for hp but was told 250hp/230ftlb is when your going to start braking shit
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yay double post
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i may have to bring 260 to hallett and pray for the best and look for a fastist time of the weekend and 1st place in driver education class unless matt shows.
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That is an amazing number with that spark table. Damn.
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Considering Dan ran the same motor as you with less power, Hoosiers, a wing, and the same suspension we should be able to run 1:28's with no problem because I'm guessing the Hoosiers are worth 2-seconds. This will probably be the last track event for me in the turbo car.
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Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 623564)
. This will probably be the last track event for me in the turbo car.
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Originally Posted by Bond
(Post 623566)
Then what?
I haven't had fun in my car since it was NA. Ever since I built a capable car, I'm either worried about blowing it up or wrecking it. Apparently its abnormal to consider the consequences of each corner, each lap, each and every time I drive the car. I literally think about rolling or walling the car on every corner. I can list any track I run corner by corner and tell you where the wall is or if the grass is bumpy. I had a roll over wreck about a decade ago that really scared me. |
Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 623568)
Ferrari F1.
I haven't had fun in my car since it was NA. Ever since I built a capable car, I'm either worried about blowing it up or wrecking it. Apparently its abnormal to consider the consequences of each corner, each lap, each and every time I drive the car. I literally think about rolling or walling the car on every corner. I can list any track I run corner by corner and tell you where the wall is or if the grass is bumpy. I had a roll over wreck about a decade ago that really scared me. added: boost gauge was reading ~9psi with a lot of vibration and was getting into the 180kpa table with 105 kpa @ 0psi will have to run a log to get real psi |
Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 623568)
Ferrari F1.
I haven't had fun in my car since it was NA. Ever since I built a capable car, I'm either worried about blowing it up or wrecking it. Apparently its abnormal to consider the consequences of each corner, each lap, each and every time I drive the car. I literally think about rolling or walling the car on every corner. I can list any track I run corner by corner and tell you where the wall is or if the grass is bumpy. I had a roll over wreck about a decade ago that really scared me. buy something fast and shitty with a cage and go have fun instead. |
great numbers.
What pulleys you running? |
Nice. Im surprised the CR.net homies aren't drooling all over your sack.
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Originally Posted by eunos1800
(Post 623744)
great numbers.
What pulleys you running?
Originally Posted by buffon01
(Post 623750)
Nice. Im surprised the CR.net homies aren't drooling all over your sack.
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I'm acutally surprised with the mid-range...
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There was a lot of talk in Dallas on how little "proper" engine management does on motors, specifically with blowers. I guess this puts the speculation to bed.
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I can't wait to dyno mine again in Nov. I haven't made any changes to the setup but fitting MS-III and I'm running full seq., butt dyno says there's a ton more TQ, I'm running 90% DC at the same AFR with less boost.
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I'm getting back on the dyno next week with my crank wheel and I'm tuning up to 16psi...again. I have to show Jeff that I'm still his daddy.
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Originally Posted by jeff_man
(Post 623774)
i should post this up on cr and see what bs groveling ensues. 99% of them are dumper then me, and wont know what a spark table even is
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Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 623855)
There was a lot of talk in Dallas on how little "proper" engine management does on motors, specifically with blowers. I guess this puts the speculation to bed.
Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 623859)
I'm getting back on the dyno next week with my crank wheel and I'm tuning up to 16psi...again. I have to show Jeff that I'm still his daddy.
Originally Posted by buffon01
(Post 623862)
Do it.
added: http://clubroadster.net/vb_forum/sho...518#post637518 |
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I still think this is the best thread I've read all month:
We have just completed testing the '90 Coldside, which is running the dual injector setup and E85 now. Got a tad over 190rwhp which is about double the stock power. It is running a stock '90 engine (short nose crank and all), Raceland Header and Racing Beat catback exhaust and of course, the FFS Coldside. I put in the 280cc injectors that are the later style as used in the '99-'05 along with an adjustable fuel pressure regulator to allow easy conversion between gasoline and E85. Here are the specs: Pulley Ratio: 110/65 Adjustable Fuel Pressure Regulator: Vacuum Only, set to 60psi at idle on E85, 25psi on Gasoline Fuel Injectors: 280cc Extra Injectors: 750cc/310cc Combo Main PC Pro File: Main_9093_Ver002 Main PC Pro Settings: 3-3-2 (GB-YB-RB) Timing Card File: TC_9093_Ver002 Tming Card Settings: 3 (GB) = 5-6 deg retard at 16psi Max Boost: 16psi The EGTs were absolutely incredible! They got closer as rpm rose so that they practically overlaid. I believe this shows how well the dual injector setup works. Attached is a comparison dyno showing the E85 setup in blue, 91 octane gasoline in red, and the bone stock setup in green. I have also attached the EGTs on E85. http://www.fastforwardsuperchargers....9&d=1274934598 |
god damn it, now i'm not going to get any work done today fucking with CR, need more hustler thugging
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No hellaflush, no care |
Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 623897)
I still think this is the best thread I've read all month:
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16psi and e85 required to get an mp62 powercard 1.6L setup to 190rwhp...
on 93 octane and 16psi, I'd be around 300rwhp on my 1.6L setup. |
lol, I see now, slow morning :facepalm:
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Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 623913)
16psi and e85 required to get an mp62 powercard 1.6L setup to 190rwhp...
on 93 octane and 16psi, I'd be around 300rwhp on my 1.6L setup. :giggle: |
Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 623913)
16psi and e85 required to get an mp62 powercard 1.6L setup to 190rwhp...
on 93 octane and 16psi, I'd be around 300rwhp on my 1.6L setup. |
Originally Posted by buffon01
(Post 623918)
Yeah what about all the low-end torque a S/C provides. And not to mention the turbo lag.
:giggle: you mean the powerband below 2.5K where it beats my setup? I tend to clutch dump from 3K with 5-10psi of boost built already built up at the light...no worries. |
Dudebro, a spark is a spark. As long as the a/f ignites with the boost you got, you will have power...... |
Oh my god, CR hurts my fucking head. They are so fucking retarded :facepalm:. That Fabel guy should be riding the shortbus :facepalm:
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i'm looking at my log and i'm seeing a max kpa of 180 (105 is motor off) but i'm only seeing my boost gauge ~9 so i don't know what is going on with that.
adding log to first post |
Holy shit I sincerely hope you don't think we're going to look through that log.
Were you logging grass grow? shit is 1361.935 data points long. |
I'd trust the MS WAY more than the boost gauge, my gauge showed 13psi while MS showed 16.2ish
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He has an adaptronic but ya
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kpa the ecu seeing is based on calibration values you give it. i got them from Travis over a year ago so who knows. going to try and see how good my calibration numbers are and change the vac line to my gauge from the cheap shit i found on the floor to real line.
it's a ten min log and you can drop it in mega log viewer |
hehe i need a good laugh. Back to writing papes.
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